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I'm confused about why "doing well" in a tournament setting would make the difference. Kelly has already demonstrated exceptional success on the show: at least one record (non-tournament money winnings for a woman) and possibly others. (She must at least be up there in terms of most money winnings
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Larissa deserves her own entry. Just as Ken
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