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regular season play) by number of returns and dollar total and her average daily winning was also commendable. She was a pleasure to watch and quickly won the hearts of many viewers with her genteel demeanor and aggressive wagering on final rounds and daily doubles. She is the only contestant I ever cheered for out loud as if watching my favorite sports team in a squeaker.
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I am on the same page as those who argue in favor of keeping due to her being the highest winning female in the show's history (regular season). However, I believe that (as stated) we shouldn't go beyond the distinction between male and female and start to create pages for the highest winning white,
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I'm confused about why "doing well" in a tournament setting would make the difference. Kelly has already demonstrated exceptional success on the show: at least one record (non-tournament money winnings for a woman) and possibly others. (She must at least be up there in terms of most money winnings
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There are some such groups that are probably not universal enough to by themselves merit attention. However, it's also unlikely that if, say, the all-time record holder among Hispanic women over 65 won two or three times, there wouldn't be coverage in sources that establish notability. Otherwise I
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Articles can be expanded. This was nominated for deletion about ten minutes after it was created. Assuming there's nothing more than Jeopeardy to write about, there could be relevant details included from the interview article and about the games she played, if the issue of shortness is a problem
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Larissa deserves her own entry. Just as Ken Jennings has and deserves his place Larissa's Jeopardy accolades are noteworthy within the shows history. Her husband was a previous contestant who's appearance was held to one episode by Ken Jennings, She is the winningest female in Jeopardy history (of
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More and more, people have started garnering interest in Larissa. Larissa DOES show that she has the makings of a Jeopardy! champion (pardon flowery language) and lately people haven't been this interested in the show since Ken Jennings' appearance. And now she's won over $ 220,000, already on the
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record-holder is only a sub-distinction. At some point, one has to draw the line at creating new sub-distinctions; perhaps being a female record-holder is noteworthy, but is being a hispanic female record holder, e.g.? or senior citizen hispanic female record holder? etc. With sufficient
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in someone's first 1, 2, or 3 shows.) She's third all-time in non-tournament money winnings. I could understand arguing that nobody could be notable for Jeopardy alone, but I'm not sure why we should dismiss someone with a major record if it's not accompanied by "tournament success."
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dichotomization, any champion can be said to be a "record holder" amongst some classification group. Still, it would be reasonable to ask to let the article stay at least until Larissa's run has ended and the extent of her actual eventual notability is determined.
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as a record holder on the show who meets the baseline notability standard of coverage in multiple reliable sources. This is not just a run of the mill contestant on the show; she's the all time money leader among females and third all time in money winnings.
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Unless there is more to say about this person, a line in the main Jeopardy article would seem to suffice, or perhaps a list of record-holding contestants. But an article like this, doomed to never be expandable past a few sentences, shouldn't stay
553:. Short mentions at the bottom of television newspaper columns do not merit notability. Also, Dan Pawson won more games; and he doesn't have an article (nor should he). Recreate the article if she hits 20 games; until then, delete the thing. 186:--all have articles that assert notability only for Jeopardy appearances. As far as merging, what's there now could be merged, I agree, but the article has existed for all of 10 minutes and could certainly be expanded. 230:
Notable certainly exists because she is the all-time leader among females, and third (as of 5 minutes ago) highest all-time in total. She just extended her streak by one show a few minutes ago, too.
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because there is a lot of potential from reliable sources, even if the article is bland right now (and my gut instict says that she does not deserve a page, but this is not a valid reason). –
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But she's not the record holder. Celeste DiNucci is the female record holder. If you include her $ 250,000 Tournament of Champions win, Celeste has over $ 100,000 more than Larissa does.
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she has proven that by being the all time leader for female contestants she belongs. she has also become the third highest money winner and anyone not wanting her listed in jealousy.
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Larissa has not only achieved relative celbrity status (which alone is enough to give cause for keeping the article), but also is the holder of several important Jeopardy! records.
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for people. There's no need for this to be a stub forever, but expecting it to be more than a stub after existing for a few days strikes me as a bit unreasonable.
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agree with Gary that being the all-time money leader among women is not similar to some silly classification system that makes everyone a record holder.
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All-time female champion is a sufficient claim to notability. She'd at least merit a mention somewhere, so outright deletion is unnecessary.
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It's certainly harder to discern characteristics such as ethnicity, though; male and female contestants are easier to tell apart.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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with interest lately and I think she might achieve something more than just 3rd-best, but we'll see.
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contestants has been that only the record-holders deserve their own articles. Obviously, being a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Now that she's lost with only 6 wins, does this make anybody change their mind?
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The previously-discussed (but unofficial) guideline regarding notability of
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This comment quite likely reflects a case of exaggerated self-importance.
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If she wasn't the all-time winner for women. She is, so thats notable.
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for now and recreate when she attains notability. I've been watching
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into the show's article, with all the ones named before, including
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could likewise be gerrymandered out of holding any sort of record.
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I too would vote to KEEP. Other Jeopardy! winners have articles:
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Sure, she set a record, but it wasn't much. My vote is
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Not that it'd make any difference, but my vote would be
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Why do we need a seperate article on her biography????
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Per most other editors reasoning (record holder, etc).
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Trivial, non-encyclopedic. Merge, as a last resort.
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Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Renata
talk
05:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Larissa Kelly
Larissa Kelly
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
WP:N
one-event notability
slakr
22:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Croctotheface
talk
22:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant)
Frank Spangenberg
Jerome Vered
Eddie Timanus
Croctotheface

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