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301:.) Despite the protestations of this IP contributor, previous consensus has been against including much of this content and also against creating a POV fork named "Legal challenges to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act". This appears to be an attempt to circumvent consensus by avoiding the article talk page and instead using the 435:. This page will not be eligible for deletion on grounds of the POV of its present content because that isn't a criteria for revision deletion, and the page will be NPOV if reduced to a redirect. We only delete a plausible redirect if it is positively harmful (WP:R), and I don't think the POV fork arguments above demonstrate that. 534:
and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated." This is the approach we should take here; the article should be deleted as a POV fork, which will reduce edit warring over content that has been rejected by consensus on numerous occasions. If an editor feels it
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The passage from POVFORK cited by Dr Fleischman above says nothing about forks that are also plausible redirects. In that case, the relevant guideline is WP:R. Since that guideline creates a very strong presumption against the deletion of plausible redirects, and their page histories, I do not see
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for linking to it just now. I can see how the confusion arose, and have just linked the term in the nomination. I have also linked to the other term with
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Regardless, whether the removal of the content is accomplished by reducing it to a redirect or by actual deletion is just a technicality. --
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before they starting IP hopping. Based on their geolocation I also believe they have a COI concerning the
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case (which has been the primary focus of the edit warring, and which appears in this POV fork). --
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appears to take precedence over the other. Regardless, the two guidelines are not in conflict.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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as POV and a copyright violation (i.e. copying without attribution) and then recreate as a
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The argument is not that the article is POV, but that the article is a POV fork.
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as a POV fork. Relevant content is covered more thoroughly and neutrally in
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and in edit summaries on the article page. (Especially relevant is
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says this about POV forks: "Articles created as POV forks may be
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for not linking to the term in the nomination. I'd like to thank
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I would have pushed this one back to the contributing author.
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list of United States of America-related deletion discussions
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necessary, they can then recreate it as a redirect. –
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This is a procedural nomination and I am making it a
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Constitutional challenges to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
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