512:- I was not crazy about this article either, and on first face it seems like notability would be a concern. But the lead paragraph does a great job establishing that notability, and the article is extremely well referenced. I also took quick issue with the fact that the whole article is a list of bullets: in the end it's obvious that bulleted lists are the best way to organize the information, and the formatting is impeccable. I find no good reason to delete this article. -
569:). (Of course since Paul represents many shrimp farmers, this sponsorship is not mere wonkery.) The fact that Wikipedians deem about 10% of the bills notable enough is not a deletion argument. I'll add that HCR right now. Note that is only the fourth bill which was cosponsored rather than originally sponsored, which should suggest the primary editorial process involved here.
211:. Per Diligent Terrier, merge the good info into the article about himself and the one that simply lists his positions. Articles in the style of "Legislation sponsored by" sound like they have the potential to hint at non-neutrality through an implicit guilt by assosciation fallacy, which would be a POV grey area.
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Would you mind explaining how to obtain your list of 422 bills from LOC? The editorial process is the same as throughout WP: those bills which are deemed notable enough to merit listing in subsections of an article (whether or not they are notable enough for separate articles). Just like we have a
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546:"Recognizing the health benefits of eating seafood as part of a balanced diet, and supporting the goals and ideals of National Seafood Month.") And while the legislations here are sourced, the editorial process to choose which ones get included isn't, which I don't think is a good thing.
542:), rather than make an incomplete list of his favorite legislations. Because clearly there is an editorial process here selecting what editors feel are the "important" legislations he's supported (e.g. the article omits such goverment-standard wankery as
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371:. I see nothing wrong with this article. It's large and well-referenced, so a merge would be unsuitable. As for deletion, I also disagree, as it's fully-verifiable with reliable sources and a good supplement to the main article about Paul.
470:, chopping out the list cruft, and focusing the article more on the the collateral effects of and (significant) reactions to his antics is in order. If the AFD does close in Delete, I would recommend userfying the article to John or myself.
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