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536:) 02:12, 8 October 2011 (UTC) I understand that this article has been speedily deleted 5 times. That is quite impressive. However, I (and a few other people) are trying to make an article that really details the notability of Lia Marie Johnson. She is quite "famous", with 40,82 "likes" on Facebook , 14, 782 followers on Twitter, 100,783 subscribers on YouTube, and 19529 friends on YouTube. All these numbers are growing. As I stated before, Lia is an actress who has done a lot of credited work. She appeared a movie that was shown during the EyeGore awards in L.A. She is a favorite on Kids React, a wildly popular series on YouTube. We, Lia's fan-base, are really trying to make a good article on a good person. IF you allow us, we will make this article notable. 1098:, etc., etc., that will be created, if its really true that this has been deleted multiple times already. The lack of even one substantive news article on her is unlikely to last long however. Any decent PR-minded teen can whip up some local news coverage. If she can't or won't, she'll stay deleted.-- 1134:
Alright guys, I have a proposal. How about, we keep this article for a month or so. If we (meaning anyone) can find the info that you (people who want to delete this) need, the article stays. However, if we fail, this article may be deleted. However, it is highly likely that someone will make another
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Alright guys. I have to admit, a good point is being made here. While Ms.Johnson is indeed facing a great career, currently she isn't notable enough for a Knowledge (XXG) article. I am confused because some actors/actresses who have appeared in one movie have their own article, but whatever. Although
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can be huge, yet all had difficulty in obtaining wikipedia articles because the press is slow to take notice. Lia is currently well below the popularity view-wise and subscriber-wise of those youtubers at the time they finally "stuck" here. Lia could be making major money off her videos before the
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mentions Lia at the very end. Like you said, she didn't receive an award herself. And like you also mentioned, she went upstage with the director. To me, it looks like she is definitely heading towards a great career. I understand if she is not "notable" enough for an article yet. However, at some
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It shall not be deleted? At the moment, we have no way of knowing whether it shall be deleted or not, as the community have about 7 days to discuss this. However, having a bit over 40,000 "likes" of her facebook page does not equate in and of itself as an indicator of notability. The top 100 liked
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Yes, I agree that Lia Marie Johnson isn't "notable" enough for a Knowledge (XXG) page, because of all the rules. I understand all your points about how the article should appear after Lia's notability rises, how Wiki isn't a crystal ball, etc. So (and as much as I love Lia MArie Johnson in a
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I cannot believe I am saying this. But DELETE. I tried making a good article on Lia, but obviously no matter what it will be deleted because she isn't notable enough. The time will come when she will be famous enough for a deserving article. Thank you guys! Honestly, I learned a lot from
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Lia does deserve an article, it isn't the right time. I think we should wait a little bit until she is more well known. I mean, just because my sister stars in several commercials, it doesn't mean I'm going to write an article about her. I'm still *neutral* on the subject.
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to be released! Having followers in blogs and social medias does not make one notable, yet when the time comes and her carrier develops (yet to come) as her supporters state, it should easily meet with the criteria (or reliable sorces are quoted).
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Anyone with 20 items in their catalog can sign up with iTunes and start selling their music videos there. And if you have only one video, you can pay an iTunes music aggregator to do it for you. There is no editorial control. It is just like
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Other people agree with you ArabianKnight24, that someday she might be notable. It's only the start of her "career". But the article should come after her notablity, not before it. You agreed right, that right now she isn't notable enough?
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non-creepy way), I guess the article will be deleted. I know the time will come when this article will be allowed haha. And Lia, if you are reading this (She definitely noticed this conversation), I'm sorry haha (: So... *
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article. So I am honestly not sure why you gusy keep trying to delete it hahah. Also, I know for a fact that as some point Lia will be notable enough for an article.
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While we welcome enthusiastic editors, Facebook/Twitter/YouTube etc are not considered reliable sources. Has she received significant coverage in
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and salt. No evidence of notability but lots of evidence that the article will be recreated in the very near future. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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You did a good job trying to show the other side ArabianKnight24, I'm sure she noticed. She definitely
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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per |=ANTAG£JAPANR0X as well, based on their behavior, unless we want to meet here tomorrow.
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point she will deserve one :) I hope this article doesn't end up getting deleted! Thanks!
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books. This means that the iTunes store is not a reliable independent source, period.  --
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http://www.neontommy.com/news/2011/09/stars-screams-and-scares-2011-eyegore-awards
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REALLY? You have no idea of how many people follow her facebook page!
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but this was opposed. I see nothing to indicate that she meets the
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Thank you for your reply (and friendliness :D ). This article
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Lia is In A popular series!! She has performed a song with a
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Salting rarely works for people like this, because you have
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of the subject - which your statement has not provided.
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