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307:. Only thing that saves it is that it's going to confuse readers if some winners have articles and others don't on a arbitrary basis on which articles happen to have been taken to AfD. I'd rather a decision was taken on articles as a whole, and reasonable outcomes could be: 1) There is enough coverage of winners for all winners to be presumed notable; 2) Winning doesn't confer enough notability in its own right but some of the winners became notable by other means (in which case the template needs to say "notable winners" instead of just winners; or 3) non of them are notable independently of the programme. Should we go for 2) or 3), merging all the winners into a single article would be a reasonable compromise. 392:, and does not gain as wide an audience. As a reality television show, it is broadcast on Living TV, which is significantly smaller than the likes of the BBC, ITV, or even Channel Five. Furthermore, the British version of the show is not as popular as its American equivalent. As such, while the show is notable - It's a television program, after all - The winner is not unless they have achieved notability elsewhere. 191:. She did win a series of a what is a notable reality show. I am sure that it can be referenced. The winners of the other series all have articles. I agree about "up and coming" being a very bad sign. I have removed that. -- 422:- The other winners - Seem to be the same. My solution would be to delete the articles of Fowler, Ratcliffe and Evans and mention their careers in the main article, whilst keeping McAvoy's as is. 326: 494:
and appearing in several television series. The American and Australian counterparts are bigger notable than the British series, although it seen more in an internet forum sites.
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seems to have appeared on a variety of other shows after winning and so in my opinion rightfully has an article. Lianne did not achieve this - She won in 2006, not recently.
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My point about the fact she wasn't a recent winner is that she's had time to gain notability away from the show, and apparently hasn't done so.
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Digression: I just put "up and coming" in the search box. It is a great way to find stuff that is either poorly written or just not notable. --
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Winning recently confers no more notability than winning several years ago, but I'll take your word on the rest of it.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Not notable, single claim is a tv show that since she's been unable to gain any notability on her own.
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here.) The consensus is to delete simply because she is not notable. Comparing her to other people is
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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has been more notability than Fowler, although she didn't win the series, she had covers in
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into main article (or separate article for winners) along with the others except McAvoy.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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is also nominated for deletion, is less fewer notability than Fowler.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and failing orphaned. It was prodded less than five weeks ago
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