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he created his own style of those arts then that would be different and would not confer notability at all. IF independent sources are provided that show he really introduced those arts to Russia then the article should be kept. This seems unlikely, but I want to give the article's authors a chance to prove the claims. Otherwise there's nothing else that shows notability and the article should be deleted. The copyright issue is also a concern, but is irrelevant if the article is deemed not notable.
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We've had articles on other people that have been the first to introduce a particular martial art to a country and those people have generally been considered notable--with good documentation. That's how I interpreted that statement, but it currently lacks the needed sources. Of course, if it means
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If he really is the "Founder of jujitsu and kobudo in the USSR" as the article claims, then he's probably notable. The problem is that there are no independent reliable sources to support those claims. Another problem is that the article appears to be a machine translation of this non-independent
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I do not know how to deal with this one. The claims and titles especially in the Japanese context are contrary to the normal way of things and bring into question the validity of all claims. I have no idea what a Juice mentor is but it probably has to do with a very bad machine translation.
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Both Jujutsu and Kobudo are not monolithic - certainly not in their country of origin. That statement alone has red flags popping up all over the place.
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Currently I would class this in the same category as the Super Soke's from the west which are not notable.
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since high ranks alone have never been considered enough to show notability.
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