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that see real use, and should be considered reasonably scientific. Humorous units is meant to list those units written with the specific intent of making a joke. As such, it is not scientific at all. But it does document a certain brand of humour, and articles that document humour certainly do have a place in wikipedia.
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well be arbitary, but that doesn't change teh fact that they exist and are in real use. I concede that "unusual" may be POV, but I am at a loss for a concise term that would catch the essence of such a list (non-Imperial non-SI doesn't work - too long, and ignores traditional units from country xyz).
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Like I said, I nominated it for deletion because "unusual" is inherently subjective (as is "humorous"; which is why I nominated them together). How would you define an objective criteria for what to include? And, as I said, everything here that is referenced and notable already has a separate article
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While some of the units noted do have their own article, this is far from the norm, and making individual articles would make every single one of them into a stub. I have previously done major editing to remove items that violate WP policies. As for teh arbitary wacky SI-imperial pairings, they may
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While it may not be possible to draw the precise line between what is unusual and what is not, most of the units in this interesting list are indeed unusual, in the sense that their use is limited to a narrow circle of people or to a particular moment in time. Others, such as "storeys" are in wide
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for the second nom ("List of humorous..."), not as much worthwhile material, but some entries are informative. Both articles need substantial cleanup and editing/cutting (more so for "List of humorous..."), but neither deserve deletion because they don't really violate WP policy.
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I guess I'll withdraw since there's an overwhelming consensus to keep, but "unusual" still has to go. Maybe it could be reformed into a list of "domain-specific" units?
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