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355:, the fact that there is a category of vegetarians is irrelavent to whether or not the list should be deleted. However, this list is currently entirely unreferenced, but that is not a reason to delete it; it is a reason to flag it as being unreferenced, find sources for the entries, and delete entries for which sources cannot be found. 295:, but building a rudimentary list of links is a necessary first step in the construction of an enhanced list -- deleting link lists wastes these building blocks, and unnecessarily pressures list builders into providing a larger initial commitment of effort whenever they wish to create a new list, which may be felt as a disincentive. 469:
a list of people who are "listed as Catholics because they are" - it's a collection of lists of people who are best known for being associated with the Catholic church. People who are notable for some other reason, but happen to be Catholic, aren't contained in those lists. (The two odd exceptions
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Short summaries of who the person is, for one. Improved organization and readability; personally, I hate reading categories because of the way that they're presented. Lots of things that you can do with something that isn't just a table of entries generated by something that's meant for
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Rather, they are synergistic, each one complementing the others. For example, since editors differ in style, some favor building lists while others favor building categories, allowing links to be gathered in two different ways, with lists often leapfrogging categories, and vice
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this list provides information that is not otherwise readily available anywhere else in Knowledge (XXG) (with categories you have to keep browsing around and can't see the whole list at once). If the list gets too long it could be subdivided into "List of vegetarians in ".
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I don't see why a list of 'vegetarians by nationality' makes any more sense. This should be kept and improved as a list of notable or historically important vegetarians. Those who are vegan should be moved to a vegan list, pescatarian to a similar list, etc.
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I don't really see what point you're trying to make. They're listed as vegetarians because they are; it's referenced on their page, and if not, it shouldn't be on the list. Obviously, only notable people would end up here, and as such, it's no different than
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are people who are something else first and vegetarians second - a lot of them are professional musicians, actors, and athletes, for instance. To put it more clearly, most of the people listed are known for something other than their vegetarianism.
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Right - I'm aware of CLN, but what functionality could a list of vegetarians provide which a category could not? All I can come up with, offhand, is references - and those should already exist at the articles being categorized.
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Developers of these redundant systems should not compete against each other in a destructive manner, such as by nominating the work of their competitors to be deleted because they overlap.
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its as notable a demographic as any religion and is taken much more seriously than most creeds, think of both as philosophies or lifestyles.
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This is an improvement argument, not a deletion argument. Regarding redundancy, please have a look at our guidelines on
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machine-readability rather than human. Also, I can't view them all at once, I have to select which section I want.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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It seems pointless, but on the other hand I can't come up with a reason to delete it. --
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branch). Indeed, the categories appear to be far more comprehensive than this list.
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either, though - note that the title redirects to a list of more specific lists (
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Doing so may disrupt browsing by users who prefer the list system. Also,
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These methods should not be considered to be in conflict with each other.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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is not really a vegetarian and does not belong in the list. A
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632:as discrminate and verifiable list. Sincerely, -- 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 685:). No further edits should be made to this page. 388:Struck out invalid !vote by banned sock. See 8: 476:List of people who converted to Catholicism 228:List of vegetarians by country of residence 465:, if you haven't already. It's everything 250:and its many subcategories (including the 89:Articles for deletion/List of vegetarians 416:List of Roman Catholic Church musicians 86: 591:A good example of a list like this is 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 539:Someone who eats no meat except fish 248:Category:Vegetarians by nationality 84: 24: 472:Catholicism in Nordic countries 252:Category:Vegans by nationality 1: 636:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 545:could perhaps work though. 702: 226:. It already seems to be 206:List of vegetarians by foo 72:02:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC) 667:03:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC) 641:06:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC) 625:22:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 608:11:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 597:AfD is not forced cleanup 584:08:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 555:04:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 530:21:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 513:15:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 490:21:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 457:11:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 439:04:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 402:14:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 383:11:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 365:10:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 336:09:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 322:09:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 305:09:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 266:09:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 239:08:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 217:08:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 195:07:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 678:Please do not modify it. 412:List of Catholic authors 32:Please do not modify it. 406:We don't have a single 83:AfDs for this article: 543:List of pescetarians 276:categories and lists 424:list of vegetarians 418:, etc). There is a 122:List of vegetarians 78:List of vegetarians 461:Do take a look at 669: 657:comment added by 562:Keep or subdivide 463:List of Catholics 446:List of Catholics 420:List of Buddhists 408:List of Catholics 278:(emphasis mine): 693: 680: 652: 639: 637: 593:List of Baptists 580: 575: 570: 169: 163: 145: 69: 62: 54: 44:The result was 34: 701: 700: 696: 695: 694: 692: 691: 690: 689: 683:deletion review 676: 635: 633: 578: 573: 568: 488: 437: 320: 264: 165: 136: 120: 117: 115: 112: 81: 65: 58: 50: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 699: 697: 688: 687: 671: 670: 644: 643: 627: 610: 586: 559: 558: 557: 515: 498: 497: 496: 495: 494: 493: 492: 482: 431: 404: 367: 345: 344: 343: 342: 341: 340: 339: 338: 314: 269: 268: 258: 241: 176: 175: 116: 114: 113: 108: 106: 101: 96: 91: 85: 82: 80: 75: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 698: 686: 684: 679: 673: 672: 668: 664: 660: 659:66.234.47.172 656: 649: 646: 645: 642: 638: 631: 628: 626: 622: 618: 614: 611: 609: 606: 604: 603: 598: 594: 590: 587: 585: 582: 581: 576: 571: 563: 560: 556: 552: 548: 544: 540: 536: 533: 532: 531: 527: 523: 519: 516: 514: 510: 506: 502: 499: 491: 486: 481: 477: 473: 468: 464: 460: 459: 458: 455: 453: 452: 447: 442: 441: 440: 435: 430: 425: 421: 417: 413: 409: 405: 403: 399: 395: 391: 387: 386: 385: 384: 380: 376: 372: 368: 366: 362: 358: 354: 350: 347: 346: 337: 334: 332: 331: 325: 324: 323: 318: 313: 308: 307: 306: 303: 301: 300: 296: 294: 290: 285: 282: 277: 273: 272: 271: 270: 267: 262: 257: 253: 249: 245: 242: 240: 237: 235: 234: 229: 225: 222: 221: 220: 219: 218: 215: 213: 212: 207: 203: 197: 196: 192: 188: 184: 180: 173: 168: 161: 157: 153: 149: 144: 140: 135: 131: 127: 123: 119: 118: 111: 107: 105: 102: 100: 97: 95: 92: 90: 87: 79: 76: 74: 73: 70: 68: 63: 61: 55: 53: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 677: 674: 647: 629: 612: 601: 596: 588: 566: 561: 534: 517: 500: 466: 450: 370: 369: 348: 329: 298: 292: 288: 287: 280: 279: 243: 232: 223: 210: 201: 199: 198: 178: 177: 66: 59: 51: 45: 43: 31: 28: 653:—Preceding 617:KleenupKrew 505:Alchemy12 501:Weak Keep 394:DarkAudit 375:NewAtThis 655:unsigned 602:Celarnor 480:Zetawoof 451:Celarnor 429:Zetawoof 330:Celarnor 312:Zetawoof 299:Celarnor 256:Zetawoof 233:Celarnor 211:Celarnor 172:View log 589:Comment 535:Comment 522:MrPrada 187:Dotsod1 139:protect 134:history 613:Delete 518:Delete 353:WP:CLN 351:: Per 286:(...) 284:versa. 244:Delete 202:Delete 179:Delete 167:delete 143:delete 569:Green 170:) – ( 160:views 152:watch 148:links 52:jonny 48:. -- 16:< 663:talk 648:Keep 630:Keep 621:talk 579:tree 574:wood 551:talk 526:talk 509:talk 474:and 470:are 398:talk 379:talk 371:Keep 361:talk 349:Keep 224:Keep 191:talk 181:per 156:logs 130:talk 126:edit 46:keep 467:but 665:) 623:) 599:. 565:-- 553:) 547:Q0 537:: 528:) 511:) 414:, 400:) 392:. 381:) 363:) 357:Q0 193:) 185:. 158:| 154:| 150:| 146:| 141:| 137:| 132:| 128:| 661:( 619:( 549:( 524:( 507:( 487:) 485:ζ 483:( 436:) 434:ζ 432:( 396:( 377:( 359:( 319:) 317:ζ 315:( 263:) 261:ζ 259:( 200:* 189:( 174:) 164:( 162:) 124:( 67:t 60:m 56:-

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