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part of the Unicode space (e.g. MPH 2B Damase which has no CJK characters, and the Ghostscript fonts which are Latin-only). A couple of Japanese-only fonts are listed; and even the ones like Code2000 that cover most of the BMP don't have the multiple glyphs per character that would be needed to cover more than one of the set {Chinese, Japanese, Korean}. "The SIL fonts" is listed, but that's just an organization that publishes fonts, none of which individually covers a large fraction of Unicode although together they do, so we might as well say "The Adobe fonts" or "The Microsoft fonts." And "open-source" is a poor descriptor to apply to fonts in general, because very few fonts have anything resembling source code. If we mean "free" we should say "free"; it's not the same thing as "open-source." But there are plenty of better-maintained and better-defined lists of fonts on Knowledge already. Lists may be a legitmate class of Knowledge article but this is not a good list because it has no clear definition of what could or couldn't be included.
651:. This is more than a mere collection of links, so perhaps a better proposition is to augment the article with history on why native system and other fonts are relevant to efficient presentation of web content across several Asian languages (in this case the CJK subset). Additionally, adding a table of the common system fonts would provide the relevance argument, as web designers need to have a source of native font references to put into their style sheets and know that they are web-safe fonts. As mentioned above, lists are a valid class of WP article, and it would appear that 209:, Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Furthermore, Knowledge is not a repository of links and files. If the fonts are notable we can certainly have articles about them, but compiling them into a list for the purpose of reader access is not in conformity with Knowledge's purpose. If readers are looking for Chinese/Japanese font support, Google is their friend. 710:
for both. The currently quality is dire, but I think the better solution is to improve them rather than removing them. I, for one, just wanted to look up such list. However, I do think the any non-free fonts that is not included in any major Operating System should not be included in the CJK article.
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As I said on the article's talk page a few months ago (I was 207.161.99.42 at the time), it's not at all clear what the criteria are for inclusion on this list, and if the items already listed are typical, then ANY free font in the world could be listed. Most of the fonts listed only cover a small
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has been been met by the many years of web development and millions of pages encoded in the fonts specified. I personally spent several hours of research before coming across this article, which saved me the effort of researching what had already been compiled from apparently reputable sources.
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It is a common practice at Afd to nominate more than one related article for deletion in a single discussion. This page is the deletion discussion for both List of CJK fonts and Open-Source Unicode Typefaces.
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I am also nominating the following related page because it is essentially the same thing, a list of fonts:
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lists are a valid class of WP article. No apparent attempt to establish whether these lists are
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Have you done any research to try and determine whether this list particular list meets the
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which goes against WP:NOT. I would call the notability of font lists into question, too.
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Inadequacy that can be corrected shouldn't disqualify the article from being retained.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Wait a minute. My comment above was intended for the deletion discussion of
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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lists are a legit form of Knowledge article. Lists must meet a
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is an informative page and is worthy of being kept. --
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Link the template to the correct deletion discussion
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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List of CJK fonts
List of CJK fonts
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Open-source Unicode typefaces

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