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213:. The split is certainly not justified on size (the original article is under 6K, this is under 2.5K, and size splitting doesn't take place until 40K). The list does not overburden the original article (especially if formatted correctly, without a list of non-existant pictures). To discussants and the closer, please note that even though this is an AfD, the burden is actually reversed--Ahnoneemoos needs to justify the existence of this as a standalone article, with a no consensus result requiring a return to the original state (no split). Really, an AfD should never have been required, had Ahnoneemoos attempted to establish consensus in the first place. 547:
to merge back and redirect. A no consensus result would just throw this back to normal discussion and editing to hash out; it would not in any way prevent editors from keeping this split off. Here a split based on size issues is reasonable given the length of the formatted table, and the same as has been done for other articles on government offices. So
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There's no requirement to stage a discussion prior to splitting a section from an article. I also disagree that there's any kind of burdenshifting applicable here; if anything, AFDs should be harder when you are trying to delete split content because the normal solution, if one is needed, is simply
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on the main article. I will take responsibility and give my compromise to edit and clean the List as time goes by. Just because it doesn't have pictures today it doesn't mean that it won't have them tomorrow. I'm not an employee of Knowledge and can't be on it 24/7 but it's obvious if you see the
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and splitting articles is OK as long as you leave substantial information on the main article. That's exactly what I did. I have provided you with a fantastic solution that satisifies both your concerns and mine, but you are still focused on your crusade for due process,
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this is a list of people who have held a significant governmental role. I expect that the remaining entries will also be found to be notable. Both this and the page it was split from having sourcing issues, but googling suggests that sources exist.
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But that's the problem, you did not revert my edit: you simply speedy deleted it unilaterally even after I contested its deletion. You just can't speedy delete something as an Administrator when it's contested. Remember, as an editor
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and established its Director to lead it. This office is critical for Puerto Rico as it serves and the primary liaison between Puerto Rico and the United States. Naturally, the Director of this office is extremely important to
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and it's important to detail its Directors, but not on its main article. The main article already has a clean and concise list of its former Directors while this article has a detailed view.
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is probably the most widely accepted essay on the site, and is generally held to be equivalent to a guideline at least. Had you simply opened up the discussion required by
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cover your ass, but as an Administrator things are different because you actually have the power to delete something. I advise you to re-read what you just wrote and
440:: we need to detail the Directors information and include: Ordinality, Picture, Name, Date they took office, Date they left office, Political party, and Affiliation. 150: 492:- a reasonable list. Work in progress. Nomination without merit. WP:SPLIT does not "require" anything. It is a guideline, and it merely "recommends". - Altenmann 146: 357:. Your goal is not doing what is best for Knowledge, your goal right now is: "DUE PROCESS WAS NOT FOLLOWED OHMAHGAWD MUST DELETE". Knowledge is flexible and 196: 422: 232: 206: 270:
list of articles that I have created and edited that I will eventually contribute to it to bring it up to standard. I also understand that I don't
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and that this is not my article, but this is simply a normal thing to do on articles that have long tables that deviate from the main subject.
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I beleive that it's better if we have a clean and concise list on the main article with a separated and detailed list on this List. The
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that you want to vanish all evil that doesn't follow what you believe to be due process. You need to remember that
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stands above all. This is not a malicious edit, it's actually quite benefitial, but you are so caught up in
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Being bold is fine. When you are reverted after being bold, you must engage in a discussion on the matter.
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the article becomes more about its Director than about the office since the table would be extremely long.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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doesn't require a discussion to take place to split the article. I was
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This is acceptable on Knowledge and is not a violation of any rules.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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This is what this edit did. Unfortunately, as you can see,
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deleted it even when the speedy delete was contested.
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list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions
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still wants to delete it. He is being intransigent.
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