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Are you under the impression that lists are policies or essays? They're a kind of article; that's why they're in the article namespace and not in the non-existant list namespace. None of the products has significant coverage from reliable secondary sources, and neither does the topic of products in
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I was considering taking the first AfD to Deletion Review because the closer never seemed to take into account the keep votes never addressed that there were no secondary sources about any of these products, but this will do. None of these products have any coverage in reliable sources or establish
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There needs to be a compelling reason to include material that has no real-world notability and frankly there is nothing in this list that suggests that is the case. Delete primarily on grounds of notability; lack of proper sources is a secondary, although also legitimate, concern.
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fan world, not sure there's much more to say other than what would be plot-summary-ish. Not sure what could be found for independent notability—I do see toys, lunchboxes, T-shirts, etc of it, supporting cultural notability, but having trouble finding actual
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both or merge/redirect selected information as examples and/or to their respective episode articles. Without real-world information, there is no justification for being this detailed about what happened in the plot. --
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is also nominated for deletion (and it is tagged as such) shouldn't it also be listed at the top of the page? I notice some of the comments seem to only be addressing the list, not the article and the list.
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article. In the first five pages of results, there are three passing mentions of the product, and one article has a brief plot summary involving Slurm. It's all primary information, nothing to assert
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In addition, the problem isn't that sources aren't listed, it's that sources aren't available. This isn't a problem that can be solved by putting effort into it.
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states that "if no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Knowledge (XXG) should not have an article on it." I'm also including
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and the last AFD had pretty light participation. The notability of the TV show does not automatically extend to every one-liner or image from it.
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media and so have recognizability even beyond just the TV show. Plus, the previous discussion (a keep) was only in July. Sincerely, --
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Thats why they aren't individual articles, they are a list. Your using article space criteria against a list. As for slurm, see
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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writing about Slurm itself or its logo'ed real-world products as a cultural or popular icon.
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per nom, and also because it is a bit too trivial and fan-crufty for Knowledge (XXG).--
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real-world notability aside from being one-off or recurring gags on the show.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The issue is not the lack of references; it's the lack of
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