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227:(Deletion log); 16:55 . . Jpgordon (Talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:List of Historical revisionism (revisionist historians)" (G8: Orphaned talk page of non-existent or deleted page) (Deletion log); 16:54 . . Jpgordon (Talk | contribs) deleted "List of Historical revisionism (revisionist historians)" (Copyvio; cut-and-paste from www.revisionsists.com) 507:(3) The 2 articles we have are based on their "Philosphy." Some now wish to distance themselves from Holocaust Denial - and have been quite successful in convincing editors at Knowledge (XXG) that there is such a thing as legitimate "Historical Revisionism" (there ain't). But they have apparent been quite successful in their persuation. 476:
Sorry for being blunt, but could you please make up your mind whether this is supposed to be a list of people or an article on a website? And do you really think that "People listed on some random website" is a proper topic for an encyclopedia article? Yes, some of the people listed on the website
200:. And in order to insure it from deletion - I supplied the List alone - that is absolutely not subject tp copyright infringement. However, I used a REDIRECT page to do that. The original page is in Limbo - not being an Administrator, I do not know much about such stuff. However, I think 563:'s second attempt, under a new name, to basically cut and paste this website into Knowledge (XXG). It's a completely non-notable website if this is supposed to be an article about the website, and it's redunant if it's supposed to be a list--There is already a list in the 576:
That can be easily changed. It's merely one website (of many). The point is not the Wen site. It's the list I'm interested in. You are not addressing the issue. And there are no Copyright violations that you can even remotely suggest.
234:. I see now in the above a Good Faith belief that there was a Copyright infringement. I did not/do not agree. But that can no longer be the case because I used the DAB page to re-write the article as a stub - keeping only a 99: 94: 103: 86: 520:
For all these reasons, it would be good for our Encyclopedia to identify the notable ones in order for all of us to know that we are reading the views of a particular school of thought known as
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share any membership. Schmidt isn't even a historian for all we can tell. By now the article has been turned into one about the website, but it still fails the notability criterion
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and has started to turn it into an article about the website whose list he copied and pasted. Another editor removed the AfD banner, and a third editor tagged it for
510:(4) What's the purpose of Lists at Knowledge (XXG) anyway? If there is one, these individuals fit the bill. And they are not shy or sheepish about their views. 255:
I do not know now how to proceed. I think the best is to do a Merge, But I have no access to the Old page because it was deleted by Jpgordon. Please advise. --
307:. What's this meant to be? A list of any historian who's disagreed with previously published views? CSD A1 or CSD G1. Even the title makes no sense. 663: 630: 607: 586: 571: 543: 490: 465: 445: 419: 378: 347: 316: 297: 264: 247: 219: 178: 160: 68: 169:
to make it look like it never existed, through the process of deletion. Kind of like an indiscriminate list, except no blue-links or red-links
147:, but according to the source website's bios, not all people on this website are holocaust deniers or even historians. Currently it borders 659: 374: 293: 90: 143:. I have no idea what this article is supposed to be (even the title doesn't make any sense to me).There's a pretty large overlap with 17: 390:
These people may or may not be individually notable, but they don't belong to a common organization (though many are related to the
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article. Speedy delete, and stop trying different tactics for turning that website into a Knowledge (XXG) article, please.
678: 192:. It was suggest by him that it was a "Cut & Paste" - whatever that meens. Based on a discussion with a user named 36: 144: 677:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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is an expert on the matter. If you ask him, I'm sure he can clarify everything. Cheers Wikipedians! --!!!!
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in its current version per criterion A7, as article about Web content with no indication of notability.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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and belong to an Organization which Publishes its views, bios, and membership list:
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/zundel.html
640:Ludvikus, the creator of the article, moved it to 394:in one way or another). For example, without some 196:, the word "Copyright" came up. This is mainly a 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 681:). No further edits should be made to this page. 603:. Try to pay attention to what people say here. 648:. I think that makes this discussion moot. — 83:List of Historical revisionism (revisionists) 75:List of Historical revisionism (revisionists) 8: 477:are notable, and we have articles on them: 151:: Speedy deletion for lack of context. 55:. Redirect at title below deleted by 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 599:Yet again--there is already a list 24: 355:Ludvikus, maybe you should read 392:Institute for Historical Review 513:(5) They also call themselves 410:and has no secondary sources. 1: 335:http://www.revisionists.com/ 139:List of "revisionists" from 59:per R1. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Www.Revisionists.com
Jmlk17
Jpgordon
Deor
talk
12:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
List of Historical revisionism (revisionists)
List of Historical revisionism (revisionists)
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
this website
Category:Holocaust deniers
WP:CSD#A1
Huon
talk
20:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Mandsford
talk
20:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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