393:- This list is helpful to contextualize the difference in the offerings of Sony and Microsoft's respective subscription services, and will be useful to readers for many years to come. You imply that this is unimportant the second the game leaves the program, but that'd be akin to implying that it would be useless to list episodes of television shows after they're no longer aired on television. It's still relevant, albeit not accessible in the same form at present. A decade from now, I don't doubt that this topic will be researched by peoples interested in why the PlayStation 4 or Xbox One was more successful than the other, as the comparison between their respective offerings is vital in understanding the general consumer's mindset as to the quality of their respective services. To imply that this isn't relevant to an encyclopedia like Knowledge (XXG) is to ignore the potentially huge impact of these programs on the future of the games industry. --
457:- I am the user who originally decided to add in the column of when games are deleted. I am not the one who decided to separate the Instant Game Collection into a NA and PAL list though. I loved this list, because it showed me which games were previously given away for free and thus would not be given away for free in the future. This list also proved valuable, because it gave me insight into the quality of the games that were being released for free and whether or not it was worthwhile to subscribe to the service. About the removed date column, my original goal was to give people an idea of how much time a game may last for free as part of the service and if a game was removed. By doing this, I hoped that people would be able to see whether or not a game was still offered when they subscribed to the service.
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