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2259:. I was brought here, like many others by Wiggins2, or as he wants to be called, "Wiggie". I think we shouldn't be so quick to shoot him down, as I, & probably many others, are grateful for his post to draw our attention to this subject. I wouldn't mind if the other "side" did the same. But we cannot ignore the fact that this is defintely going to open wikipedia into two halves; Those who want to keep. Those who don't. I.E. Christians, & others. However, this should not be about religion. I would be ashamed of the christians on here if they only voted to keep the articles because they were christian orientated. This should strictly be business as usual, even though it does seem strange an editor would nominate so many christian articles. Maybe a hidden agenda? If an article's crap, then it should be deleted. Being an inclusionist, I will probably keep the most mundane article. However, the list of notable people list is like many others, & should not be here. To do so would be obvious bias. I ask everyone to not be drawn in with a strict "You're wrong, I'm right" situation, but be open & find a way to keep peaceful.... 48:. The final tally was 42 delete, 18 keep, 11 merge. I discounted 8 votes (7K/1D) for being either from newbies or not having real reasons (e.g., "it exists" -- my big toe exists but it doesn't deserve an article). Even if I had kept them, we'd have 43–25, or 63% delete. Also note that most merge votes were "merge or delete." This really should be a merge IMHO, which should satisfy the inclusionist bloc who don't want to see the content deleted. Really, we're talking 44Kb for a list of people? The vote stacking also really disturbs me. I noticed that a number of the people in the inclusionist bloc all voted on the same AfD discussions, all right in a row, which strongly implies they were here only because of their wikiphilosophy (still, I didn't discount their votes). 1523:. Yes, Gastrich, I'm an inclusionist. I also have absolutely no problem with alerting people to ongoing votes, and think that people who vote against simply because of that are being incredibly dense, but that doesn't mean I don't weigh the article's merits once alerted. I'm not going to pass judgment on whether LSU is a diploma mill or not, but don't think I'm just a tool to use for voting keep on every article on the deletion listings. I'm going to give each of the articles you sent to me careful consideration, and will vote accordingly. If you were expecting me to charge in and vote keep without reading anything, you don't know me very well. 1065:. Solicited a favourable vote from me via email because I am listed as an inclusionist. I would like to point out that the inclusionist motto is "with truth preserved."...not "with vanity preserved." Well established, accredited institutions usually do warrant a seperate list of notable graduates...Harvard, for example, is very likely to have a huge list of notable graduates which would be too long for the main article...but LBU's list (even if they are all truly notable) is short enough to fit fine into the main article. If this article is kept, then I vote to have an undeletable list of all people who have read the 312:, which had a rational about the notability of the school but suggested renaming it, which strongly suggests he thought he was voting on whether there should be any article about it at all. The other lists aren't relevant because if we take out the deadwood (i.e., the red links and the links that are going to go red and the people only marginally connected to the mill), there's hardly anything left. Plenty of schools have a lot of notable graduates. The mill you're wasting your time at? Not so much. 1692:- How many people are here because Gastrich emailed all the inclusionists on the vain hope that you automatically vote to keep articles? An argument for delete can be made that should be acceptable to inclusionists - put the valuable intellectual content where it belongs, in the LBU article, and no content is lost. I know that there are several such inclusionists here, although since Gastrich used email instead of talk pages, there's no Wiki trail of proof like there is for his wikichrist crowd. - 1657:, it is simply campaigning. Those of you opposed to this author or these entries will just have to trust that the people who are brought in can make up their own minds regardless of how they got here. Personally, I'm questioning the objectivity and neutrality of both sides here. This is an encyclopedia without page limits and in order to avoid charges of bias especially in these controversial areas, we should always err on the side of inclusiveness. 2332: 743: 1006:"...Several weeks ago, JCSM (Jesus Christ Saves Ministries) noticed this trend and created a new ministry called Wiki4Christ. It's an organization that exists to make sure Christians have a united and represented voice on Knowledge. As you may imagine, unbelievers also edit there and they actively try to silence Christian input and revert our contributions; especially Christian biographies! This is where we need you, now. 1741:, LBU is not as significant an institution of higher learning. Some schools warrant their own page of notable alumni simply because of the size of such a list. This page, on the other hand, can easily be included in the LBU article without any loss of content and therefore, by mergist principles, does not warrant a separate page. Will you try to hide your POV, like you say everyone but the two of us tries to do? - 1002:(strong) I don't see how this is necessary with the inclusion of notables on LBU's page. The discussion seems to be mostly reasonable peppered other than the personal attacks from the author. I would say that there would be vote stacking. I received notice of this from a email list headed by Jason Gastrich himself. If I could get a place to host I would be happy to post said email. To quote from that message: 1915: 1305:, which means they're in basic compliance with the standards. It's apparently a kind of probationary accreditation. IIRC, even before they were accredited BJU was considered to have one of the top accountancy programs in the country, which to my mind is enough to overcome the presumption that an unaccredited school is a mill. (Still wouldn't want to go there.) 2503:, but nonetheless there are a number of "graduates" who have articles on Knowledge. Assuming these articles themselves aren't vanity (or the association to the college isn't made up), I see no reason why it's different from any of the other university lists on Knowledge. I might agree to a policy to delete all of the "X university people" lists as 1644:
folks don't deserve to be here. The criteria for me here is, "is this article useful as a way to initiate research" and clearly it is. If I was interested in, say, the history of baptist thinking or wanted to make a wash list of baptist notable, I could use this as a start. A PERFECT WIKI ARTICLE in my opion.
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notable enough to deserve its own page for alumini. The only thing more ridiculous is that there are vanity biographies made of these non-notable people featured on the alumini. Finally, Jason Gastrich is making personal attacks and encouraging people who obviously do not know the entire situation to
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with original article. This AfD appears to be in danger of going off-topic. This is suppose to be about whether or not the article is worth keeping, not about whether or not LBU is a "degree mill" or not, or the merits of accreditation, or other stuff this AfD is bringing up. Let's get back on topic,
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This is a perfectly viable encyclopedia article on a public institution that could very well be the subject of someone's research in the future. In such an event, wikipedia would come in handy. That is what wikipedia is for. I haven't heard a single good argument to why this should be deleted. There
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is unaccredited. Why shouldn't they have a list? The fact remains that there are many notable alumni and a list is a good thing to have, so they can be organized and, well, listed. The fact that they haven't sought government accreditation means little; especially in light of its alumni and academic
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I don't know enough about this here yet so I'm abstaining for now. But it seems to me that alot of these articles here, the bio's I mean, pass into the notable stage and are verifiable. I'm not a christian by a long shot and I have issues with fundamentalism in a big way but that doesn't mean these
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He goes on to give links to all of his articles that are noted for deletion. He also doesn't point out these articles are authored by himself. - I would say that this languaged is charged to skew voting. I have been a longtime fan and user of Wiki and this is the first time I've been interested
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Yesterday, the entries below were nominated for deletion. This means there will be a vote on whether or not to keep them. Please come and let your voice be heard! This endeavor will only take 10-15 minutes and it will be something you can do with your online time that will further the kingdom of
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I do hide my own POV. And comparing the LBU to Harvard is nothing short of silly. They aren't even in the same league. The LBU is noteworthy in its own way. Its an american institution, which is why it listed on the english wikipedia. On the Swedish wikipedia, alot of small schools have their own
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entries. None complains. So no, thats not a good reason. There are no other articles with these names, so there's no name conflict. There's no nothing, except silly notions about the standard of education on the school. This guy is by all accounts an important person, so he deserves a page.
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We can't just throw out something related to something intellectual (in this case, a university) while other articles related to things like sport are kept. It is not of stub length, and is useful and informative. This could save someone a lot of searching. - 13:14, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
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Your comments to those that oppose keeping this and your emails to those who will likely side with your views really shows your character. You are not right and thus only way you get people to support you is to a play the religious martyr role--- which many people don't buy.
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I think the reason this has gotten so blown up is because Jason recruted help by emailing inclusionists. Deletionists did the same thing as well. Really, let's keep this between the two camps and not bring the gods into this! Factions are killing wikipedia.
1549:. As soon as this started turning into a Christian vs. everyone else debate I lost interest. Unfortunately, many of those voting keep are claiming that everyone else is anti-Christian. This wasn't so, but if it is repeated enough it may become truth. -- 442: 787:, no need to merge non-notable people to parent article. JzG is right: that list of unaccrediteds is a handy place to find junk and too-fanatic-to-meet-standards when there's a question about an unknown institution supposedly of higher learning. 1935: 977:(strong) First of all, the nom uses very subjective language. Diploma mill is a pretty crappy spin to put on things. Second, there may be someone who wants to do research on the school and its associates, why not have a page? 2365:. Vote stacking, sock-puppetry, and general disruption has made it impossible to fairly evaluate this article, but it appears to be a list of non-notable people associated with a non-notable school. At the very least, merge. 1787:
Something very funny happened today. I got two identical emails from Jason Gastrich through Knowledge. You can make up your own mind as to whether this qualifies for meat-puppetry or stacking the vote. Here's the email.
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Dude, it's not a Christians vs. the Detroit Lions situation. I'm an atheist (because I reject Christ's far-left socialist teachings)--I want to keep it because anything that actually exists is worthy of an article.
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I don't see anything about them applying and being denied. Also, this link doesn't tell me that they are accredited, now. I've read that they have applied for TRACS accreditation and were waiting on their decision.
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into Louisiana Baptist University page. I believe this list has a place on wikipedia, but it would be a nearly empty list as most of the people are non-notable, and we don't need to have nearly empty lists.
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does this article deserve to exist? I say yes, why not, otherwise, we should begin removing other school's lists. It could probably be paired down to be just notable alumni, but it still deserves to exist.--
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As others have stated, these seems partially redundant with the notables list, and the author's arguments do not persuade me of this list's worthiness (or indeed, the worthiness of many of the list's items)
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per nomination. Are these types of lists even used for accredited universities? Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of unnotable people. If there are any notables put them on the university page.
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rules take priority over everything. Lists of alumini on unaccredited universities and biographies on non-notable Christian missionaries are unacceptable. If you have a dispute, create your own wiki site.
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mention of lobbying and sock-puppet allegations is appropriate, but alleged vested interests are at best borderline arguments IMO. What should count is user contribution history, and the article itself.
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Indeed they do. And the ones who are genuinely notable (and a few who are not) are already linked in the LBU article, which is certainly not overlarge. So this separate article is unnecessary. -
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Wow, you're right. That is a very impressive list of 60 universities. Is there are seperate category for non-accredited universities? Or will we have to create a new category for this list?
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These articles aren't controversial in any way. The self-proclaimed "deletecrew" that haunts this site makes topics like this controversial by attacking them because of their own POV views.
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This article was created by Jason Gastrich to promote his school as a mainstream institution. This is only one of around 10 articles he created promoting his religion/degree/school.
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seems to have been abandonned rather than closed - pity, needs cleaning up when the dust settles.) The list of delete arguments above includes some valid ones but also many
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Non-notable school, school has an entry at Knowledge, superficially padded list of persons, mostly of little or no notability. Not helpful or informative, a space waster -
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I know. It's a good thing and par for the course on Knowledge. There isn't an unaccredited category specifically for lists right now. You can create one if you like. --
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How do you know it's of interest to very few people? There are 59 lists like it. Do you happen to know how many of those are important to how many different people? --
1174:: Thanks for your comment. However, I disagree with you and I believe that some unaccredited universities deserve lists of people associated with them. For instance, 520:. Borderline libellous per Tups, borderline listcruft, borderline lack of notability, and Gastrich's vote recruiting tips my teetering vote over all three lines. -- 2056:-- why not have an article for every unknown fringe person who graduated from South Succotash High School in an article. This is just ridiculous self-promotion. 2074:. Disagree with the idea, not the person. I am not using this statement to attack a specific side of the debate, as both sides are violating this policy. Also, 660:
Please login and sign your comments with four tildes. If you don't have a user account, register for one. Anonymous votes aren't really counted in AfDs. --
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silensor says clearly what I was thinking... article establishes its reason for existing. It does appear it may have problems keeping focuses however.
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You don't see why people are talking about keeping the names page? That's what this nomination is about! Furthermore, there are 68 other "names pages"
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Funny, isn't it, that when an AfD concerns an article of yours that people never seen before come crawling out of the woodwork to vote with you?
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per nomination. I thought we had categories for this list junk anyways (though I'd support this being deleted from categories as well). --
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et al. are kept, then my vote can be for a weak keep instead. Including it (or not) should depend on the results of the related AfD's. --
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take the little (if anything) that is left and merge it into its parent article, probably deleting the redirect as useless. We could
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into article on the "university", which already has a list of notable alumni. Not enough content here to merit a separate article. --
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Care to back that up? This isn't a university. It's an unaccredited school that happens to use the word university in its name. --
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try and hide your own POV like all the others do? Seriously, I'm asking again. Give me a good argument why this should be deleted.
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have a bun-fight on the article's talk page about what is meaningful to keep, ending up with like four names. Or we could simply
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site, and its objectives, I have several comments to make. It is fine that you are creating this organization, but Knowledge's
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List of mostly non-notable people connected (sometimes loosely) with a diploma mill attended by the originator of the article.
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page. I don't really see why people are talking about keeping the names page (they are already on the article page) or merge.
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Regardless of people's opinion of the information, it is still good information. I actually found the article quite useful.
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and other irrelevancies. (Let me pre-empt two others by saying that I am a Christian, and I have been emailed on this. See
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only has 782. Bob Jones University is clearly more notable than Louisiana Baptist University, so that is a different case.
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Given it's current state, it should be weaned and merged into the main article under the Notable Alumni section.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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And just to be above board here, I was asked to come vote here by the author. This is not vote stacking or
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this now, as its only purpose is to provide a list of articles that are AfD candidates as they don't meet
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Diploma mill, in other words, they can hand out diplomas to anyone. So this list doesn't mean anything.
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from Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS), Accreditation Commission, see
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there is already a (short) section for notable grads in the school article. We don't need another list.
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Apparently the 59 others are accredited and the schools are actually rather significant on their own.
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as a list of interest to very few people, apparently created just for the sake of having a list, i.e.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Exactly my point. This shouldn't be about religion, only about what's best for wikipedia...
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scored 772,000. The margin of difference is simply too large to consider otherwise. From an
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is no wikipedia article on "Diplomamill". User:Itake|Itake]] 14:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
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a directory of vanity. I agree with the merge, but Louisiana Baptist University is an
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like it for various universities. They haven't been merged with their university. --
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Gastrich you made two errors: LBU did apply for accreditation and was denied. And
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Note - this page has been refactored. Comments have been moved to the talk page
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the more notable names who already have WP articles into the main LBU article.
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This is a great list. LBU is a great university with many impressive grads.--
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Please try to stay on-topic and focus on the article and the contributions. -
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There's nothing vote stacking or wrong with encouraging people to vote. --
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The LBU 1998 request by TRACS (the people who approved BJU) was denied--
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an indiscriminate collection of information. I would not oppose merging
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could do with renaming "List of notable alumni" or something like that.
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please this list is informative and too big to put on the main article
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This is irrelvant. As it has been shown, 60 universities have entries
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Yes, they're used for many universities, institutes, and colleges.
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I hope something is going to be done about this ballot stuffing.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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been nominated for deletion. This is only about the list called
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this was explained once to you already on the LBU talk page.
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List of notable people connected with a wonderful school.--
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a directory ("indiscriminate collection of information").
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blindly support him via email. I am not criticizing
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This list is like other university lists 84:List of Louisiana Baptist University people 2109:article, non-notables list takes up room. 1864:I see no reason to delete this article. -- 1116:The quoted phrase from your post above, " 143:on Knowledge. Helpful and informative. -- 1302:To be exact, they have candidacy status 549:article as nn list of mostly nn people. 1710:which is only a redirect to this page. 1036:university-related topics are notable. 1255:and the denial of the approval in 2000 2437:Stop hating on anyone with religion. 7: 2457:Anti-factionalist fearmongering ;-) 2182:Actually they already appear on the 1249:A discussion about the inquiry with 720:And now I see the wisdom in keeping 2076:stay cool when the editing gets hot 1597:a discussion about the article on 24: 1932:vote to delete the parent article 2330: 1913: 741: 1424:has a ranking of 82,173, while 111:I - Puppetry and RfC discussion 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1994:User has a total of 14 edits. 1609:. 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Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
howch
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chat
18:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
List of Louisiana Baptist University people
brenneman


02:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I - Puppetry and RfC discussion
A.J.A.
02:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
A.J.A.
02:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Jason Gastrich
02:47, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
II - Accrediatation discussion
Consumed Crustacean
Talk
02:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Hvnhlpr
03:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
David D.
(Talk)
04:31, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Louisiana Baptist University

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