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information about the material in which they appear, thus facilitating identification and browsing. Browsing is a key function of an encyclopedia. As a general rule, for almost all topics with individual elements, if there is a category, there should be a list. Incidentally, i suspect that most of the ones in Alaska would turn out to be historically notable if properly investigated, for either the parish as such or the building.
554:. Orthodox parishes in Alaska are likely to have a lot of history, since Alaska was once a Russian possession and the Russian Orthodox Church was then Russia's established church. Some of the parishes were established under Russian rule, so they have been around a long time. The absence of an article is not a proof of non-notablity; it simply means that nobody has gotten around to writing an article on the topic yet. -- 420:
First, because that the individual churches may not be individually notable does not mean that they are inappropriate content for at least a list entry. Second , categories and lists are complementary, and there is no reason not to have both. Lists have the particular advantage of providing some
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All right, let's pick through this. For convenience, let's assume the only notable entries are cathedrals and churches that already have articles. We get 0 of 7 notable entries for Arkansas and Hawaii, 4 of 31 for the DC area, 10 of 157 for California, and 8 (5 cathedrals and 3 parishes with
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non-notable entities, of directory material. As for your boilerplate argument on the function of an encyclopedia, there's a flaw. Lists by definition present notable subjects, not ones that "may not be individually notable". See
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requires proof of notability at hand, not hypotheses of what would turn up "if properly investigated"), we'd still be left with five lists of
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requires positive proof of notability, not speculation. I also note you say nothing about the Arkansas, California, Hawaii and DC lists. -
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is not even working! I might have time to work on this tomorrow. The most historic is probably the one associated with
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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on this. Hundreds of years of history there. I also have nothing to say about the other states.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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List can be used as an incubator for notable material yet to be published, as noted above. --
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articles) for Alaska. Now, even if a few more of these were notable (and remember,
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article. It already has a list, so just merge that section. Note the link in the
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Merge any good information into existing "Orthodox Church in..." articles. --
423: 734:, as historically interesting. The others don't seem to be notable. 465:, with state-by-state lists of actually notable ones (ie, ones with 515:
to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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should be deleted now. Then you can decide on the others. Thanks.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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parishcruft. These are NN congregations - what's next
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List of Eastern Orthodox churches in the United States
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related to the subject of the index... Lists contain
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according to which to judge the list itself. Nor is
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No further edits should be made to this page. 210:Category:Eastern Orthodox churches in California 8: 212:, etc.) and even dedicated articles such as 631:the one for Hawaii, after merging into the 620:list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions 614: 618:: This debate has been included in the 487:List of fast food eateries in YOURSTATE 667:and merged the lists, so the List of 206:Category:Churches in Washington, D.C. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 371:Orthodox parishes in Washington D.C. 728:List of Orthodox parishes in Alaska 87:List of Orthodox parishes in Alaska 79:List of Orthodox parishes in Alaska 24: 469:), but this is a step too far. - 279:Orthodox parishes in California 1: 744:19:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC) 720:17:35, 18 November 2009 (UTC) 699:21:16, 17 November 2009 (UTC) 681:19:41, 13 November 2009 (UTC) 663:I fixed some broken links in 657:03:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC) 606:05:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC) 578:19:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC) 564:19:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC) 544:17:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC) 233:Orthodox parishes in Arkansas 73:00:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC) 503:03:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC) 476:07:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC) 433:03:53, 4 November 2009 (UTC) 223:15:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC) 669:Orthodox parishes in Hawaii 325:Orthodox parishes in Hawaii 778: 665:Orthodox Church in Hawaii 637:Orthodox Church in Hawaii 633:Orthodox Church in Hawaii 491:List of ATMs in Manhattan 214:Orthodox Church in Hawaii 754:Please do not modify it. 588:Don't bundle nominations 32:Please do not modify it. 459:internally linked terms 56:an acceptable outcome. 50:not a relevant standard 645:Russian Fort Elizabeth 461:". 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List of Orthodox parishes in Alaska
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