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364: 178:- Perhaps there are more civil words to use to label another's contributions besides "pointless" and "random". Perhaps one of the 6.5 billion people on Earth for some God-only-knows-reason at sometime will need to find out who the longest living Philippine president was, or needs to find out how long a certain president lived in relation to others. -- 390: 546:
vote. I'm not saying I am swung by my fellow Wikipedians votes, but this issue seems to have quite a heated basis. Or perhaps I'm just reading between the lines where there is nothing to read. Either way, I'm not giving a vote either way.
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I'm sorry if my 'pointless' comment offends, but this is trivia (IMHO). I can see no usefulness or any point to this organization of the presidents. As far as the US list (and many others), that seems more an example of
257:. There are many ways to rank things, those which have some sort of impact on the subject matter are justifiable, but since a president's longevity means nothing to the person's presidency, this is not one of those. 86: 81: 90: 73: 332: 113: 464:
Consistency and precedent matter. Presidents of the Phillipines are no less important or encyclopedic than leaders of Austria, Canada, Germany, and the United states.
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is helpful for understanding why we should not delete articles that would be kept if they involved English-speaking or European countries. Considering that
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There was a precent-establishing discussion about other lists of Philippine presidents several months ago. I guess they missed this article.
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per Stephen. We already have the List of Philippine Presidents we dont need another one just sorted differently.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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along with a batch of other, similar lists. That makes it precedent, not just "other stuff exists".
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The Philippines is a fairly large and significant nation deserving the same treatment as others.--
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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to have an identical article about US presidents and not about any other world leaders. --
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as per Fagles. I agree that if the longevity information is added and made sortable on
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survived deletion review, this should too. I would also support merging this list with
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I came upon this page out of my own interest and would feel sad to see it go
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Don't we have something where you can sort a table by different fields?
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It's just a pointless and random article. I see no reason to have it. --
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by longevity." This is just something too specific and unecyclopedic.
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is not in and of itself a reason to keep an article, but the US list
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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class for creating tables that are sortable by anything. --
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or US-centricity of WP than any valid precedent. Read the
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I would lean towards keep, except for the overwhelming
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then this can be deleted otherwise it should be kept.
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List of First Ladies of the United States by longevity
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Knowledge should be a place for masses of information
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If this gets deleted I'm nominating 381:makes a very valid point that we have 325:Oldest living United States president 7: 383:List of U.S. Presidents by longevity 317:List of U.S. Presidents by longevity 595:out of spite. Just kidding, sorta. 24: 448:, and it too should be deleted.-- 430:Very interesting collections all 362: 295:, but it does seem a failure of 612:list of Lists-related deletions 514:for consistency and precedent. 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 528:List of Philippine Presidents 490:List of Philippine Presidents 232:List of Philippine Presidents 440:, equivalent to the verdict 315:Consider that we also have 683: 649:06:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC) 621:20:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC) 600:03:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC) 584:04:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC) 572:00:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC) 552:21:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 535:21:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 519:19:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 507:18:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 457:17:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 408:15:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 368:13:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 306:08:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 284:07:09, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 267:06:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 250:04:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 230:as a fork of the featured 223:02:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 192:01:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 171:01:38, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 159:01:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 147:00:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 125:00:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC) 56:03:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC) 563:. 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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
John Reaves
(talk)
03:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
List of Philippine Presidents by longevity
List of Philippine Presidents by longevity
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talk
history
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delete
links
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logs
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View log
Matjlav
00:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Khoi
khoi
00:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
YechielMan
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killing sparrows
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