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192:. During discussions, we assured the people who maintained the categories that no information would be destroyed when the categories were removed and more detailed information could be added to the lists. PLEASE! don't delete these lists. If you do, people will start recreating the categories. This information makes much more sense as a list than as a category. I think it is impractical to say that cast lists should not have any home on Knowledge (XXG). People will continue to add this information faster than we can remove it. Let it exist on lists. That is the most appropriate form this information can take. -- 244:. Using categories for cast members became a nightmare, as actors may perform in up to one hundred films and TV shows during their careers. The resulting block of category links at the bottoms of the articles for some actors became very difficult to read and use for navigation. Turning these lists back into categories would be highly disruptive. 358:- article provides zero information, except that the person was a cast member on at least one show. It is therefore not encyclopedic; and any encyclopedic treatment you could provide for this list would be better off appearing in the main article (e.g. as a "cast" section for regular cast, and under a "trivia" section for special appearances). Also 209:
So, this stubby, random directory list should exist because there is a risk that people will create some inappropriate category elsewhere? I didn't know that it's how Knowledge (XXG) functions. If a category exists and shouldn't, it has to be deleted, that's all. Just because it can be tedious to do
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guidelines, as typically television actors are notable for the very reason of being in certain notable television shows. And cast categories are usually not appopriate for the very good reasons given in
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research, would be considered an "indiscriminate list" or a "directory". A cast list is a well-defined, finite, list, which is a perfectly valid criteria meeting the
240:- As the information exists elsewhere, I see no reason why this page should not be deleted. However, I very strongly oppose turning this back into a category. See 142: 378:
for an example of how a "list of actors" can approach the state of an encyclopedic article. It's not great, but it's certainly more than a simple list of names.
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to the show article or a list of show characters. Since all-capital-letter links to a particular essay and certain policies seem to be all the rage right now in
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Cast lists should almost never be done as categories. Leave either as a list article or merge the cast list into the main article for the show. See
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There is already a list of major & recurring characters in the main article for the show. This list adds no real value.
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this is NOT what categories are for. Over at CFD we spent months working on getting all the cast member categories
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 25#Category:Actors by series
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and create a random directory list just to avoid this problem.
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for information that should probably be included anyway.
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for why cast lists should not be done as categories.
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 400:). No further edits should be made to this page. 210:it repeatedly doesn't mean we have to violate 8: 362:, to respect the wishes of editors above. 141:: This debate has been included in the 127:an indiscriminate list of information. 161:. This is what categories are for. -- 73:List of Shortland Street cast members 65:List of Shortland Street cast members 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 376:Notable actors in Coronation Street 257:re-categorize. This is creating a 24: 301:is no more a valid argument than 143:list of Lists-related deletions 1: 417: 317:television show, which is 383:18:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC) 367:17:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC) 351:02:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC) 282:16:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 266:09:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 249:08:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 233:08:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 219:08:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 205:06:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 181:01:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 166:00:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 59:21:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC) 46:no consensus for deletion 393:Please do not modify it. 153:23:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 132:21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 380:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 364:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 125:Knowledge (XXG) is not 175:WP is not a directory 52:of the article. ··· 356:merge and redirect 327:WP:ReliableSources 313:cast members in a 297:, let me say that 291:merge and redirect 360:do not categorize 271:Do not categorize 246:Dr. Submillimeter 155: 146: 408: 395: 203: 147: 137: 123:Totally random. 114: 96: 56: 34: 416: 415: 411: 410: 409: 407: 406: 405: 404: 398:deletion review 391: 323:WP:ATTributable 201: 87: 71: 68: 54: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 414: 412: 403: 402: 386: 385: 369: 353: 303:WP:IDONTLIKEIT 299:WP:JUSTAPOLICY 284: 268: 259:vicious circle 251: 235: 223: 222: 221: 183: 168: 156: 121: 120: 67: 62: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 413: 401: 399: 394: 388: 387: 384: 381: 377: 373: 370: 368: 365: 361: 357: 354: 352: 349: 345: 340: 336: 332: 328: 324: 320: 319:WP:VERIFIABLE 316: 312: 308: 304: 300: 296: 292: 288: 285: 283: 280: 276: 272: 269: 267: 264: 260: 256: 252: 250: 247: 243: 239: 236: 234: 231: 227: 224: 220: 217: 213: 208: 207: 206: 200: 199: 195: 191: 187: 184: 182: 179: 176: 172: 169: 167: 164: 160: 157: 154: 151: 144: 140: 136: 135: 134: 133: 130: 126: 118: 112: 108: 104: 100: 95: 91: 86: 82: 78: 74: 70: 69: 66: 63: 61: 60: 57: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 392: 389: 371: 359: 355: 290: 286: 270: 254: 237: 225: 196: 189: 185: 170: 158: 138: 122: 45: 43: 31: 28: 335:WP:ORiginal 315:WP:NOTABLE 311:WP:NOTABLE 202:uelWantman 190:listified 50:talk page 333:and not 117:View log 372:comment 348:DHowell 344:WP:OCAT 339:WP:LIST 331:WP:NPOV 307:WP:LIST 279:Dugwiki 275:WP:OCAT 263:Circeus 253:Please 238:Comment 216:Kariteh 129:Kariteh 90:protect 85:history 374:- see 295:WP:AfD 255:do not 230:JulesH 226:Delete 212:WP:NOT 171:Delete 163:Sbluen 159:Delete 94:delete 329:, is 178:Corpx 150:Bduke 111:views 103:watch 99:links 16:< 321:and 287:Keep 186:Keep 173:per 139:Note 107:logs 81:talk 77:edit 325:to 309:of 289:or 198:Sam 148:-- 145:. 115:– ( 55:日本穣 346:. 194:☑ 109:| 105:| 101:| 97:| 92:| 88:| 83:| 79:| 119:) 113:) 75:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
talk page
日本穣
21:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
List of Shortland Street cast members
List of Shortland Street cast members
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Knowledge (XXG) is not
Kariteh
21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
list of Lists-related deletions
Bduke
23:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Sbluen
00:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
WP is not a directory
Corpx
01:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Sam

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