508:. While this may well be a useful resource, that in itself is not a reason for it to be in Knowledge (XXG). There are many types of useful resource which we do not include: telephone directories are useful, but we do not include lists of phone numbers; marriage registers are useful, but we do not list every wedding in the world; dictionaries are very useful, but we do not include mere dictionary definitions. The question is not "is this useful", but "is this an encyclopedia article?" And the answer is, "no, this is not an encyclopedia article, it is a collection of pictures". Therefore, we should not keep it. —
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315:- Even if this article is image focused, doesn't mean it's not encyclopedic in nature. Images are used in print encyclopedias and on wikipedia to convey what words cannot. In the case of liscence plates no matter how detailed the description it's not as good as having a picture. Also, in the fashion that greek and roman coins have come to be culturally important so are liscence plates, they are a piece of human civilization with extreme longiveity and most definately merits this article.
441:." (emphasis added) This article has as much text as the flag and seal articles (in fact it has more than the seal article). Sure, I would like to have each license explained (and I'll probably add that when I have time) but not having a thorough explanation is not a valid reason to delete. Now, the matter of copyright is an ENTIRELY different discussion and it should be handled elsewhere and on a per image basis. -
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