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games beginning with the letter 'F' is more practical and useful than a list of bands containing the word "lemon"? I've already discovered many new bands because of this list; it's rather ignorant to state that nobody benefits from such lists. Now if you'd please quit making such empty claims and instead come up with actual support for your argument, perhaps a decision could finally be reached. And to the rest of you, quit shouting "sockpuppetry!" like mindless peons. It doesn't make you look intelligent or clever; just pretentious and clueless. Just because there are multiple people speaking out about an issue that YOU find to be "daft" doesn't mean that they're all the same person.
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