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334:(note that I am currently waiting for the closing admin of that discussion to respond to my objections about the closure of that discussion, as the generic points about classes of articles were clearly shown to be incorrect and no reasons to delete that specific article were advanced other than "it's a travel guide", which was also rebuffed). The list needs a better intro, formatting work (e.g. an explanation of the colouring) and better referencing but these are not reasons to delete the encyclopaedic information about bus travel in the Sudbury area. 64:"The status of articles on other similar topics has no necessary bearing on a particular article. The process may have been applied inappropriately, people may not have seen the other articles yet, or consensus may have changed." Therefore the outcome goes to the argument made by the delete commenters: that 366:
If it has encyclopaedic value why are you wanting to delete it? If you look at established lists, like that for London for example, you will see that this list has the potential to be far more than it currently is. Just as we don't delete encyclopaedic articles for not been complete or perfect yet,
330:, while Knowledge is not a guide a directory neither is this list. Lists of public transport routes in settlements/areas with a significant number of bus routes have repeatedly been determined to be encyclopaedic. See the examples given in the discussion at 381:"Minimal" in this case was meant to meant in the sense of "insufficient". Articles like this one and the debate its proposed deletion has generated makes me wish that there was some way to channel this effort into a more worthy cause. -- 439:
This is not a directory. A directory gives times. and street by street routing and locations of stops. Bus routes are part of geography, and relatively stable, and this sort of summary coverage is suitable for an encyclopedia
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The encyclopedic value is minimal. If this type of thing has been kept in the past, that situation could be revisited. It should carry no weight in this discussion other than being an example of "two wrongs don't make a right"
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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is not a valid argument for inclusion. There have been no valid points made by the keep side to state how
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Unencyclopedic. WP is not a guide or directory. Also may be original research. A similar article
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/List of bus routes in Downham Market
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There is quite a lot of bus routes on this page. It is as good as
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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which people have tryed to delete (More than once) but failed.
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No, because that would be a directory unlike this article.
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List of bus routes in Stowmarket & Needham Market
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