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291:; this is hopeless. This list depends on the inherently subjective "significant" and "well-known". Also, what does "failure" mean? What happens when X is acquired by Y and re branded (is that a failure of the original brand?); what if the business was closed for non-financial reasons? What about a brand that was ended for business reasons unrelated to direct success (companies end product lines and subsidiaries all the time for numerous reasons). Any definition made generic enough to be objective, OTOH, would then be so inclusive as to include 398:. Note that this has the same premise as the nominated article, but it is way more organized, and offers explanations for why the films were not successful. We could transfer the same theory to this article. The problem with this article is that there is way too many examples listed, and no explanations to why they failed. It needs a good rewrite, but I think this article could be very well written. 502:
and spruce up the AFD'd article to be at or close to par with the list I linked, or should that be AFD'd as well? I know that OSE, but if this AFD'd article had the quality and worksmanship as the example article I linked (and possibly renamed to sound NPOV), would it not have been AFD'd in the first
276:"significant companies who met the eventual demise of their well-known brand"...that's far, far too vague to give any indication of what companies should go here. If there's consensus for a list similar to this, it should be reworked from scratch. 223: 89: 84: 416:, second you can't compare that article to box office bombs because the issue with this is a hopelessly vauge and NPOV problem with the word "failure" and the topic (a list of businesses) a rename won't help in this problem. 191: 79: 185: 144: 151: 458: 361:), "failures" is poorly defined, and the lead's mention of corporate crime implies certain things about the articles that might need to be better sourced. Listcruft. 226:
but that was closed as a keep for invalid rationales, as this list is a strongly subjective list without any potential for cleanup as "failures" is a word that fails
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a copy and paste duplication of subject article and a copyright violation, if this article is kept then please consider using move function, thanks.
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348: 296: 430:- Pretty much per Howicus. The context of this list is much too vague. 295:(there are many closed corporations than there are extant ones). — 542:
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481:- Unmanageably overbroad topic with inherent inclusion issues. 249:: I would suppose it gets retitled to something NPOV, like 134: 130: 126: 198: 212: 234:, and businesses go out of business all the time 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 556:). No further edits should be made to this page. 80:Articles for deletion/List of business failures 459:list of Business-related deletion discussions 8: 457:Note: This debate has been included in the 307:Note: This debate has been included in the 456: 309:list of Lists-related deletion discussions 306: 500:List of defunct automobile manufacturers 77: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 75: 24: 511:Knowledge (XXG): Dusty Articles 265:Knowledge (XXG): Dusty Articles 1: 535:19:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC) 63:03:19, 14 December 2013 (UTC) 514:19:27, 9 December 2013 (UTC) 498:Could we take this example: 491:01:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC) 471:00:24, 9 December 2013 (UTC) 450:23:23, 8 December 2013 (UTC) 421:23:17, 8 December 2013 (UTC) 408:21:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC) 385:00:25, 8 December 2013 (UTC) 373:21:54, 7 December 2013 (UTC) 323:21:39, 7 December 2013 (UTC) 300:21:14, 7 December 2013 (UTC) 284:20:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC) 268:19:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC) 251:List of shuttered businesses 242:19:44, 7 December 2013 (UTC) 573: 255:List of former coporations 523:List of defunct companies 101:List of business failures 69:List of business failures 545:Please do not modify it. 396:List of box office bombs 32:Please do not modify it. 293:most corporations ever 74:AfDs for this article: 412:First thing of all, 257:. Just a thought. -- 414:WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS 394:- Take the article 222:Same rationale as 48:The result was 473: 382:Narutolovehinata5 325: 232:original research 564: 547: 447: 444: 439: 434: 369: 333:As mentioned by 320: 315: 281:(Did I mess up?) 217: 216: 202: 154: 142: 124: 60: 34: 572: 571: 567: 566: 565: 563: 562: 561: 560: 554:deletion review 543: 445: 442: 437: 432: 367: 318: 313: 159: 150: 115: 99: 96: 94: 72: 54: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 570: 568: 559: 558: 538: 537: 516: 493: 475: 474: 453: 452: 425: 424: 423: 388: 387: 375: 327: 326: 303: 302: 286: 220: 219: 156: 95: 93: 92: 87: 82: 76: 73: 71: 66: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 569: 557: 555: 551: 546: 540: 539: 536: 532: 528: 524: 521:just deleted 520: 517: 515: 512: 509: 506: 501: 497: 494: 492: 488: 484: 480: 477: 476: 472: 468: 464: 460: 455: 454: 451: 448: 440: 435: 429: 426: 422: 419: 415: 411: 410: 409: 405: 401: 397: 393: 390: 389: 386: 383: 379: 376: 374: 371: 370: 365: 360: 357: 354: 350: 346: 343: 340: 336: 332: 329: 328: 324: 321: 316: 310: 305: 304: 301: 298: 294: 290: 287: 285: 282: 279: 275: 272: 271: 270: 269: 266: 263: 260: 256: 252: 248: 244: 243: 240: 237: 233: 229: 225: 215: 211: 208: 205: 201: 197: 193: 190: 187: 184: 181: 178: 175: 172: 169: 165: 162: 161:Find sources: 157: 153: 149: 146: 140: 136: 132: 128: 123: 119: 114: 110: 106: 102: 98: 97: 91: 88: 86: 83: 81: 78: 70: 67: 65: 64: 61: 59: 58: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 544: 541: 518: 495: 478: 427: 391: 377: 362: 355: 341: 330: 292: 288: 273: 246: 245: 235: 221: 209: 203: 195: 188: 182: 176: 170: 160: 147: 56: 55: 49: 47: 31: 28: 527:MilborneOne 400:RomeEonBmbo 186:free images 319:talk to me 550:talk page 503:place? -- 463:• Gene93k 314:Jinkinson 57:Wizardman 37:talk page 552:or in a 359:contribs 345:contribs 145:View log 39:or in a 519:Comment 496:Comment 483:Carrite 368:Faraone 278:Howicus 247:Comment 228:WP:NPOV 192:WP refs 180:scholar 118:protect 113:history 508:Update 505:Let Us 479:Delete 428:Delete 418:Secret 378:Delete 335:Secret 331:Delete 289:Delete 274:Delete 262:Update 259:Let Us 239:Secret 236:Delete 164:Google 122:delete 50:delete 349:Coren 297:Coren 207:JSTOR 168:books 152:Stats 139:views 131:watch 127:links 16:< 531:talk 487:talk 467:talk 404:Talk 392:Keep 353:talk 339:talk 230:and 200:FENS 174:news 135:logs 109:talk 105:edit 347:), 253:or 214:TWL 143:– ( 533:) 489:) 469:) 461:. 446:JM 443:N7 406:) 311:. 194:) 137:| 133:| 129:| 125:| 120:| 116:| 111:| 107:| 52:. 529:( 485:( 465:( 438:C 433:T 402:( 364:L 356:· 351:( 342:· 337:( 218:) 210:· 204:· 196:· 189:· 183:· 177:· 171:· 166:( 158:( 155:) 148:· 141:) 103:(

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