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48:. Strongly urge to make use of right columns (perhaps structure this in tables, supplanting and supplementing the templates). Renaming is also an option, as is reorganizing. It's obvious merging is likely to detract from the holistic scope of this list —which some view as desirable, while others maintain some overlap to be unavoidable— and this decision is left for discussion elsewhere.
234:. Uhm. I need a little help parsing the opening statement .. the stated inclusion criterion of this list is convoluted. This list needs to either be pared down and renamed to reflect some kind of quantifiable purpose, or just deleted outright. As it stands it is open to include literally any political entity in the world.
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