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374:, it pains me a little to say there are non-notable drum corps. But the fact remains--in an activity that has seen a pruning from thousands of corps to dozens, there will be many groups whose histories will never warrant a full article, though they may be held dear in the hearts of many. I believe the standards should be set in a manner similar to those by the Wikiproject Music guidelines--national touring, good public visibility, or some notable exploit outside of the activity--these are qualities all current drum articles should meet, and I believe do (though some could use polishing). My opinion is that the focus of drum corps enthusiasts working on Knowledge would be better if we considered articles on corps that have yet to be created--corps with storied histories such as Blessed Sacrament, Scout House, the Belleville Black Knights--before we consider those which may have only existed for a year or two before folding. Our energies would be better focused on a list that has not already become unwieldy to maintain. 214:"little league" drum and bugle corps??? The term doesn't even come close to fitting. I grew up in a town of 5,000 people and we had 6 or so little league baseball teams... but the nearest corps was on the other side of the state... and the second nearest one was in the next state! You may argue that there might be a corps on the list that doesn't belong because it isn't notable enough... but the list is certainly notable.-- 396:. There are nearly 2,100 drum corps listed!!! We don't even have articles yet for many existing senior corps, and the ones that exist are woefully poor. Take a look at some of the corps listed on the list of corps... who is ever going to write an article about the Ajax Sea Cadet Bugle Band of Guelph Ontario, or the Berea Scouts of Brooklyn NY? Especially since no one has yet even bothered to write an article about the 31: 421:... but come on! There's at least one corps in the list (Appalachian Sound) that I personally know never even had a public performance. I think the list needs to go, or at least needs to get pared down to corps that are or were actually well-known enough to support someone writing an article about them someday. 391:
I don't know if I get to vote, since I'm the one who created the page, but I'd like to elaborate. First off, competitive drum corps has been around for nearly (more than?) 100 years now. There are already several websites devoted to drum corps history, most notably CorpsReps. In fact, take a look
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This article attempts to categorically list all drum and bugle corps ever to exist; this is the equivalent to a page listing all Little League teams ever. It's just going to be a maintenance nightmare. This level of documentation does not belong in Knowledge; it belongs on a site dedicated
197:- Although it may never possible to make a complete list, this is not a sufficient reason for this article to be deleted. Also, how would one decide if a corps was notable or not? I think an article such as this, with the proper caveats, should stay. 496:
a list of DCI corps is encyclopedic, this list of junior corps isn't. there are a few too many redlinks to make this list of much use either. If it's appropriate (I hope some DCI expert can help here), could this list be merged to a new section of
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tags, which automatically keep things in sync, right? One more thing, the reason I mentioned Little League is not to say that drum corps is anything like it, but to give an idea of the scope of the work that would be required to maintain a list of
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specifically to drum corps history. There is already a drum and bugle corps category; since it automatically includes links to all articles related to drum corps, it is all that is needed.
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We should certainly have a list of the notable ones that have articles in wp. that's the usual way. To list all one can find is another matter entirely, and that
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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This list is better suited for DrumCorpsWiki. It's too unwieldy and esoteric for Knowledge.โ€”
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I would hardly compare Junior Drum Corps to little league baseball, much more notable.
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added to this list; things would never stay in sync. It's better just to use the
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and their sub lists, you see that the bar to notability is set pretty low.
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single one is listed so I suggest someone create a template that says, "
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Keep:The source we have is enough. This page shows list of players.--
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It would be inappropriate to merge many of the corps here with the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
523:(participants must be 22 or younger) that are affiliated with 25: 145: 134: 130: 126: 519:because that list is limited to currently existing 351:. If changed to List of notable...., then a keep. 68:). No further edits should be made to this page. 648:). No further edits should be made to this page. 400:or even the currently existing DCA powerhouse, 272:Since WP isn't a paper encyclopedia, why not? 8: 470:list of Music-related deletion discussions 441:list of Lists-related deletion discussions 541:United States Marine Drum and Bugle Corps 402:Minnesota Brass Inc. Drum and Bugle Corps 468:: This debate has been included in the 439:: This debate has been included in the 569:Chicago Royalaires Drum and Bugle Corps 45:For an explanation of the process, see 557:Anaheim Kingsmen Drum and Bugle Corps 7: 565:Star of Indiana Drum and Bugle Corps 415:every drum corps that ever existed 289:. 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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review on 2008 July 14
Knowledge:Deletion review
deletion review
Martijn Hoekstra
talk
10:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
List of drum corps
List of drum corps
edit
talk
history
protect
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links
watch
logs
views
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View log
JimBurnell
talk
20:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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Pommerenke
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18:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Rlrr
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14:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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