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I don't see any reason why this page should be deleted. The majority of the sources are reliable, the list is still being added to so the list not being big enough is no reason, the title may not be 100% correct but in the opening paragraph it says about having to have played in the league and it's
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It's meant to be a list of all teams that have been in the Football League at any point, but never the top division. Though the current article name allows any team in the English football pyramid to be added.
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The title is also incorrectly capitalised (needs a capital E on English) and "graced the top flight" is pure journalese and not an encyclopedic choice of wording --
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an interesting page as their are many teams still to be added to the list also if this page is nominated for deletion then many other pages like
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Though I very much like the title. Clearly an unwieldy and impossible list that could feasibly include thousands of sports teams --
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I guess the title is wrong and some of the sources are not reliable but I am still working on the page.
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Note 2: I've reinstated the user's comment, since they're allowed to comment, it's just their
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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as impossible listcruft. Rarely a good idea to attempt to document things that
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No sources and the list should be bigger i guess. Pure trivia info.
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List of english football clubs who have never graced the top flight
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List of english football clubs who have never graced the top flight
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Note: This is the article creator, so he'll obviously vote keep.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Account to vote at an afd always gives me an odd feeling...
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List of football clubs in England by competitive honours won
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I reckon you could get a good pub drinking game out of it.
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comment I feel strongly that it shouldn't be deleted.
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