712:- the "vandalism target" argument has no merit. Knowledge (XXG) itself is an easy target for vandalism. Deleting Knowledge (XXG) because of this would result in no Knowledge (XXG). The only articles that aren't easy targets are protected pages. The article on the current president of the United States is a major target for vandalism. We're not about to delete that article based on its vandalism traffic nor its potential vandalism traffic. All articles deserve however much vandalism protection they need. Period. If we delete pages because of vandalism, then all vandals have to do get pages deleted is to keep vandalizing them. We can't empower them by giving in. We don't give in to vandalism. We repair it, and block the vandals.
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all "hate speech" -- that phrase is a modern one, often with specific legal definitions which the listed slurs may or may not qualify for. And simply in practical terms, merging a long list into another long article makes the information harder to find and navigate -- related subtopics are split into
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Informative, well-sourced list. The fact that an article is a likely target for vandalism is not a valid criterion for deletion. If it were, we could never have articles on abortion, atheism, gun control, Muhammad, H.R. Clinton or anything else that is controversial or about which people have strong
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instead, which have long been traditional targets for massive and persistent vandalism for good. On a serious note, wikipedia spends enormous amount of articles about hate speech and stereotypes. To ignore them is being like ostrich withe head in sand. As long as hate speech exists the best way to
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No need to be ironic here. You are entitled to what you think, but I hope after this vote is closed you will understand that it is very difficult to think correctly about what the rest of billions of people want.
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What the...? What was your justification for creating so many separate similar lists? If I was looking for information I would have no clue from those titles what the difference between them was.
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