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to find to verify the information herein contained. And, just because sources are not included, does not mean that they do not exist. As such, the article should be improved … not deleted. Such improvement would include the addition of sources. Furthermore, as Mandsford states, "it needs a lot of work". I can agree with that. And, by policy, working to improve an article (as opposed to deleting the article) is the preferred means to addressing poorly-written or poorly-sourced articles.
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I thought this was a list of movie characters who had been nominated for Oscars, but it's actually a list of occasions when an award or nomination has been granted to person working under an an alias. That's a pretty notable topic, not trivia, and as Mandsford says, there should be no excuse for not
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I agree with Mandsford that this material needs to be sourced. Sources will be – and are – quite easily found and readily available. All of the information contained in this article is certainly not in dispute. It is rather well-known and generally accepted. Sources are not going to be difficult
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As far as a rename, that may be slightly tricky, but not impossible. In many cases, there was an actual nominee (a real person) who, for whatever reason, used another name (in some cases, a fictitious name and, in some cases, the name of an actual person). Mandsford has delineated several such
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most prestigious) awards given within the film industry. And, certainly, having fictitious people and/or fictitious names as either winners or nominees is indeed a rare, yet notable, event. It is certainly encyclopedic. (For what it's worth, I have seen far worse pass for "encyclopedic" on
154:; "Roderick James" was an alias for the Cohen brothers, Joel and Ethan; "P.H. Vazak" was actually Robert Towne; Pierre Boulle and Ian McLellan Hunter received awards in place of other people; etc. Neutral on this one, because it might have potential but it needs a lot of work. 184:
Knowledge.) This is by no means trivial or "trivia". In fact, there is clearly encyclopedic historical information and encyclopedic historical reasons underlying some of these fictitious nominees (Hollywood blacklisting during the McCarthy Era, for example). This is
210:. To that extent, Mandsford's post above is not fully accurate. And, to that extent, renaming of the article must consider instances such as Donald Kaufman in which the nominee is indeed fictitious. Thanks. ( 88: 83: 92: 75: 323:: for all the above reasons. It needs renaming, citing and possibly a restructure. I agree that ficitious nominees isn't completely correct, but I'm not sure what name covers 176:
I would not categorize the information in this article as "trivia" at all. At best, that classification is a matter of opinion, about which reasonable minds may differ.
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instances above. However, there has been at least one case in which a completely fictitious person was nominated for an Academy Award:
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nominees, whose nominations were made under a cover name not their own. Thus "Robert Rich", 1957 winner, was actually
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based on Mandsford's info. While the article is badly named and badly in need of sourcing, it is a notable subject.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Definitely needs a change of title, and no excuse for not sourcing this. Stated briefly, the article is about
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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the type of information that belongs in, and one would expect to find in, an encyclopedia.
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as an interesting encyclopedic list. But it does need sourcing and a rename.
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be renamed. You would expect an article with this title to reference
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Interesting trivia, but doesn't merit its own (short) article.
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Academy Awards are among the most prestigious (if not,
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Ecoleetage
talk
00:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
List of fictitious Academy Award nominees
List of fictitious Academy Award nominees
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
SeizureDog
talk
20:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Dalton Trumbo
Mandsford
talk
21:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Donald Kaufman
Adaptation.
75th Academy Awards
Joseph A. Spadaro
talk

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