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563:. It really is the same sort of subjective content I really don't think belongs in an encyclopedia....I understand how you think rather than it being our view it is published elsewhere and we are reporting it but this sort of content belongs in a magazine not an encyclopedia in my view..... An encyclopedia should cover facts not opinions or representations of opinions which is what these polls are.... 281:(or some article spun off from that), and these published lists used as sources. When someone reprints a published list (or even the top 10 of one) this is a rip-off of someone else's work, even if it might not be found a copyright violation in a court of law (although it could be -- this is not a threat. :-) ) 504:
Disagree,. The article about guitar is about guitar. The article guitarist is about playing techniques and actually playing the instrument and notable guitarists. The guitarist article just need a tremendous amount of expansion and the lists will look more at home their than in POV seperate article
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Mmm well at the least the Digital Dream Door is a more accurate list (but is this really a valid source anyway??)...... But such list are heavily biased towards the US and UK and rock. Add some respectable blues and jazz guitarist lists and it might balance it out a bit. But it is still the POV of
604:(who both strangely are ignored by these lists) is a joke....Most influentual maybe rather than "greatest".....The scary thing is that Time magazine think Slash #2 and Keith Richards #4 LOL. Both are pretty average players in terms of ability or talent but have a big sound..... 370:
Article for great guitarists will more probably risk the neutrality of Knowledge (XXG) than this article because we cannot create the criteria for one who can be considered "great guitarist", for the same reason we do not have articles like "Great US Presidents" instead of
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But this is a well sourced article about those lists, a very interesting article. Maybe a rename to "Lists of ..." or some such. As long as it stays away from becoming a wikipedia list of the greatest guitarists then that is fine.
332:, it just provides brief information (and so does not violate the copyright) about other lists made by well-known publications, so it cannot be considered biased or POV. This well sourced article is not at all different than 587:
article I think. I've merged them as that article was pretty empty. I hope we decide to redirect this into the guitarist article as there doesn't seme a point in having a seperate article...But any list which considers
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There's a big difference between writing about one's personal opinion about who is "the greatest", and making a record of the published opinions of others concerning who is "the greatest".
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Should be cleaned up, improved and kept. Dr. Blofeld, it's better you don't discuss here who's a better guitarist. The purpose of this page is discussion for deletion. --
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with a name like "considered the greatest" which might I add would be rejected from any FAC if an article contained that level of subjectivety and peacocking....
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but change to "Lists..." -- this is apparently not an article about who is the greatest, but about various lists of who the sources involved considered to be.
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There should be an article about great guitarists, not one about lists of possible greatest guitarist. Use the lists as reliable sources for the real article.
457:, in which these published lists are used as sources. I agree that WP should not give an opinion on which is greatest, only report what others have said. 184: 80: 72: 151: 559:
the people who vited or magazine....I am just concerned where this is going, if we accept lists because of sources, how long is it before we have
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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unless much more can be written about the figure of the guitarist independent of the instrument itself. —
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digital dream world is not notable. content is mostly about the guitar player and rolling stone articles.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Also external links is a great way to make this info available to WP readers.
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The topic of the world's greatest guitarists should be discussed in
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These lists if deemed acceptable by the community should go in the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
529:, per Gwalla. This article is well sourced and well written.-- 453:
Sorry for the misunderstanding. There should be an article
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article, which should probably be merged and redirected to
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Though I'm normally a deletionist, this article is good.
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applies to the need to keep a neutral tone in writing.
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