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381:, 35 law schools has at least one alumnus clerking for the Supreme Court in the years 2003 to 2013. 22 law schools had at least two alumni clerking for the Supreme Court during those years. And Leiter's list doesn't even include all the schools that produced clerks since Supreme Court justices started hiring clerks back in the 1800's. We don't need all of those law schools starting pages like that. 450:
an attribution requirement given it's just raw data, and was already present in the List of law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States series of articles. Even then, we should take care, given the lede paragraph of this list is evidently a copyvio or close paraphrasing from some BYU Law website. In short, delete ought to trump merge here. —/
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I think that this page is really redundant, and unnecessary. There is one page which lists all of the law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States. This page also tells which law school each clerk graduated from. There are also pages that list all of the law clerks to each seat on the Supreme
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on the village pump. If other law schools lack this kind of a page, I'd suggest that they should be created instead as this isn't an excuse. That said, a table like this seems to be something reasonable to include on an article about a law school and I have no significant problems with a merger as
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I don't think we have that here. And while this list could be incorporated into the BYU Law article, I don't think it should, because it's not clear under present Knowledge notability policy that SCOTUS clerks are notable. Even if we did add the list of names to the article, I don't believe there's
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I don't see why we need a separate pages listing all of the clerks who graduated from BYU. There is no other law school that has a separate Knowledge pages listing only the law clerks who graduated from that particular school. This page is an anomaly at best. What justification is there for a page
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I also agree that this list is redundant, and not useful in isolation except for possible BYU vanity purposes. Use for BYU vanity purposes would appear to violate WP's policies against self-promotion. If you want to merge this article, that's a possibility. There already is an article entitled
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and its various sub-articles, except it selects from that list people who would be part of a list of BYU Law alumni. I am not aware of any specific policies or guidelines on when these sorts of "intersection lists" are permissible, there is some advice at
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contains more complete information. And, there are many other pages with lists of notable alumni of a particular law school, so there's no problem with pages like that. This article could be merged with the list of J. Reuben Clark Law School alumni.
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long as the information has reliable sources (it appears to be the case here) and isn't being simply deleted or culled. Those who might be interested should be encouraged to create similar tables on other law school pages. --
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to BYU law school page because that is where readers are most likely to find it and there are no similar articles. I suppose there could be one for Georgetown Law, Michigan, Yale, Harvard, Stanford. Why just BYU Law?
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There is no reason to make this an AfD unless you are saying that lists in general are a bad thing, which is not something that fits the scope of an AfD in the first place but instead belongs as a
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per nom; the list is redundant, and frankly not useful in isolation except for possible BYU vanity purposes. Don't encourage more schools to start one of these.
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To BYU Law School page. The information should be there, but there is not really a justification for a content fork.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I agree that other law schools do not need to start one of these. According to
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Court. These pages also tell which law school each clerk graduated from.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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which lists law clerks who graduated from a particular school?
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