531:(check the WhatLinksHere), they are used almost exclusively for recent changes patrolling of math articles. There is no reason they should be in article-space, where they duplicate the individual pages. Either they should be moved to project space, or the existing letter pages used individually, or the individual letters merged (rather than transcluded) into them. --
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I don't know whether this list plays a particular role in the maintenance of the generally excellent quality of the mathematical articles (and the nominator has displayed no knowledge of that point either), but I see that the list has existed for six years and appears to be maintained. Collecting the
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I filed this AfD under the premise that the articles had no use; however, they turned out to be used internally by the Math WikiProject, and therefore movement, not deletion, would be the appropriate action, making AfD the wrong venue for this. I shall instead take up the matter on the WikiProject's
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There is every reason to think that the people in that project know what they are doing, and I see nothing here that would lead me to think otherwise. They sort their articles, it gets done, it doesn't interfere with anything. (I would like an simple explanation why they do both multiple letter
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individual "List of X" articles into eight "List of (X-Y)" appears likely to be very helpful for those who take mathematics seriously, since it makes browsing the titles a lot easier than a category.
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