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other things as well). The page's notability will get a boost while the competition is on and I think there will be permanent positive effects on both its notability and the attitude to
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Let me say first how much I appreciate the honesty and good faith of the nominator. We need more of that. As to the above remark about a copyvio, I'm pretty sure anything published by the federal government is the common property of all U.S. citizens and cannot be copyrighted. All that aside, helping
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