689:- Knowledge is not a directory or a bunch of mismatched information. This list only promotes the creation of small street stubs (which deserve to be deleted too) which will probably never get beyond being a stub. If I made an article List of streets in New Zealand, it would be deleted & all its articles deleted too. Other than the main streets, all should go (perhaps rename the article to List of main streets in Hong Kong). Overall delete, but if someone can suggest a better idea, please do so...
677:-- It could be argued that most lists on Knowledge amount to directory entries; if it were only notable streets, it could be from a directory of notable streets in Hong Kong. There are loads of such lists, a lot of big cities have them for streets, subway stations, skyscrapers, etc, and valid arguments have been made for their usefulness. Until there's a more general discussion on whether all of these do or don't belong on Knowledge, I don't think targeting one city is appropriate.
123:. Knowledge is not a directory and should not serve as an index of roads in Hong Kong. Not all roads and streets in Hong Kong are notable. While some roads are notable, the listing of all roads and streets in Hong Kong will spur the eventual growth of non-notable roads. This existence of such a list is hard to maintain. This article can better fulfill its intended goal through the use of a category and merging the remaining useful content into
477:. I can't imagine any vote to keep here. This isn't a list of significant or notable roads in HK, it's a list of ALL of them. That's the dictionary definition of a street directory. I'm also unimpressed at the assertions that this article "could" become useful or that it is a temporary holding page for the HK Wikiproject. This article was created
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What is the difference in the implementation of the Hong Kong-related set, apparently patterned much like previous projects, that upsets people? I suppose some didn't realize that at 6.8M people the Hong Kong population is certainly of the same magnitude as New York City at 8.1M people. And I
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