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623:, which works pretty well for high energy physics (Motl's area) and theoretical computer science (mine) but badly for some others. (2) Get a list of publications of the subject, sorted by number of citations. To find publications for Motl in Google scholar, for instance, search for author:l-motl. In some cases you need to be more careful to include variant spellings of the subject's name or to exclude hits from different people with similar names. Google scholar mostly sorts by number of citations (although there are exceptions that I don't really understand the reasons for). (3) Scan down the list until reaching a position x such that the paper in that position has fewer than x citations. The h-index is x−1. — 541:: These assorted citation counts and h-index values are good, but can we cite them in the article? And how do we source them? I've had a not dissimilar problem in an article about a book that's been cited several hundred times in the primary literature. In that case there seemed to be no good way to cite this information, since dismissive editors cried 545:
because I'd done the count. In passing, Abductive - I don't think that we can reasonably describe the subject as a "failed" academic. Yes, people leave academia because they find it too difficult, but given this subject's apparent significance to his field, it sounds like other factors are in play.
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needs to provide evidence for this notability. Although, I say that but have no idea how one does this for an academic who's "gone feral". Usually one can rely on a strong publication record together with leadership of scientific societies or receipt of prizes, but that probably doesn't apply here.
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Subject is notable as a blogger and a major contributor to and provocateur of the debate on string theory. See for example . There was considerable discussion of this side of his notability on the article talk page; whether or not he made major scientific contributions to string theory is the kind of
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The publication record is sufficient to meet WP:PROF; the awards and leadership factors are an easy way of showing notability when present, but they are not necessary. Our standards for researchers have gotten considerably more consistent since the earlier AfDs, but they have not gotten more
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significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources; he has plenty of mentions in blogs, but as I understand it they are generally not reliable sources. A search for his name on Google Scholar finds 51 results, which does not seem like a great deal. In short, there seems to be nothing
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mentioned by Robofish and the oft-cited publications. Without a good secondary source about Dr Motl's move back to the Czech Republic, we're not going to be able to write a really good encyclopedia article about him, but we can have a article significantly better than the current one.
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Comment. It appears so, but that only prevents him from increasing his notability as a physicist; it does nothing to diminish the notability of his existing accomplishments. We don't delete articles on dead academics just because they have become inactive.
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exclusive. And , as I said last time, a physicist "prepared to defend the Bogdanov brothers' papers in public" is notable all the more, in a perverse way". There really ought to be some material to cite commenting on his decision to do that.
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Apparently non-notable scientist. This article was previously nominated for deletion in 2005 and 2007, but our standards have changed since then, and I believe it does not pass our inclusion standards today. Specifically, it fails
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It is possible, however, that the diacritic in his name is making him difficult to search for. I have found a few reliable sources that mention him as 'Lubos Motl', and this New York Times article from 2001:
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Possibly he's just had enough of string theory? It is a vast theoretical edifice scraping around for observations to test it against - hardly a satisfactory field to find oneself in. Cheers, --
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that the case for being notable for that is quite plausible as well. He appears not to have been tenured at Harvard but that's par for the course there and nothing to be ashamed of. —
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thing people can debate in the case of almost anybody but it seems indisputable that he created a widely followed blog and a strong community of interest.
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I agree with the above comment. There are many physicists of Motl's age who who be happy to have his citation record.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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particularly significant or exceptional about him that justifies him having a biography on Knowledge (XXG).
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of 16, although these include some arXiv papers, plus fame as a blogger suffices.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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around 20 is somewhat above our usual threshold for
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