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380:“How To Break Into The Film Industry” Panel; etc. As an Asian American he has received attention and quite a few non-trivial sources do exist. To the best info from the many and the article becomes a reasonable building block for when bigger movie roles garner more media exposure. Also, the various movies undoubtably have at least some coverage within the commentary sections that can discuss his acting as an interpreter. There may also be some foriegn language coverage but I didn't send those through an interprteing device. 231:. This is the bad kind of unreferenced BLP. It's already attracted the kind of "dossier of links" kind of nonsense that can easily be harmful to the subject. I'm willing to be moved if we can find substantial sources, but right now, we only have a university paper reporting on an alumnus and a dossier site. - 272:
Punch a name into Google, list all of the things that come back regardless of how trivial or how personal. This is a dossier of links, so-and-so lived here at some point, so-and-so graduated here, so-and-so worked here, etc. It borders on an invasion of privacy, and if we're going to write an
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The roles where the character have a name, are the ones worth investigating. Some of the films are notable by current wikipedia standards, since they have blue links to them. Anyone who played a significant role in them, in a notable film, is therefore notable.
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encyclopedic biography we should be using sources that are about the subject, not random bits of data scattered all over the internet. A number of people have been embarassed or harmed because, say, their arrest record happened to be one of those bits of data. -
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That's a very nice job of copy-pasting IMDB, but I did investigate each role. I was challenging you to back up your claim of "notable role in enough notable films" by pointing out a notable role or a notable film. -
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Such as? Do you mean a supporting role in the first film of a small production company that has yet to make a second film, or his roles like "Passenger #3" or "Grocery store owner"? -
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Subjects should be worthy of inclusion at the time we have the article. Speculating based on what happens in the future, especially when that future is not certain is prohibited by
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One source is unavailable, the other two are not independent. IMDB suggests his roles are minor ones, meaning he fails
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The actor has played a notable role in enough notable films, to be considered notable, by the notability guidelines.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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for a role that didn't make it on the cast sheet for the movie he was in. Sound more like "not known at all."
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Out of curiosity, what do you mean by "dossier of links", and why do think it is harmful to the subject?
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Panel - Breaking into the Industry & Breaking Stereotypes from an Asian American Perspective;
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Sourcing exists to support acting career; IMDB, for instance can back up the film and TV career.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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Panelist participant at Philadelphia's Asian American Film Festival
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Juliancolton

00:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Lyman Chen
Lyman Chen
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
WP:BIO
Carlossuarez46
talk
18:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions
LinguistAtLarge
Talk
18:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Schmidt,

19:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
WP:CRYSTAL

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