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not really separate concepts from the media that creates them unless they have been discussed separately in some "out of universe" media. In response to the IDONTKNOWIT arguement, while I don't know that much about Gundam I did nominate and merge most of the characters from my favorite movies the Aliens series. While I love these characters and know alot about them, all the info in the articles comes from in universe sources and it was impossible to provide real world context. --
616:. This AFD seems rather convoluted, with various suggestions to keep one, delete another, merge some, and do unspecified things to the rest. As the general consensus seems to be somewhere between merging and keeping, I would suggest that discussion about a merge to a main article or a "List of characters" article be taken to the respective talk pages. -- 660:
come up with a smaller set of articles that are reliably sourced, and tied back to the original shows, they are quite unlikely to be challenged in any further AfDs. Note that a redirect will not wind up deleting any content; the content will all survive in the histories of the various pages, under the redirects.
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Whenever these Gundam articles come up people always claim that they are notable because Gundam itself is notable. The problem is that these articles on individual mecha contain little real world context ie how these fictional concepts fit into the real world. Fictional characters and machinery are
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and report this result on the Talk pages of all the relevant articles. It will then be up to the discretion of the editors at the different Talk pages as to where the material should be merged to. The separate articles are too weak to stand as they are, they are an embarrassment. If the editors can
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Holy crap, do you see how many articles there are within this category? MS-05A is a tiny article that doesn't seem to have much value, but RX-75 and RX-77 are huge articles, and check out the large chart at the bottom of those 2 pages before casting a vote! At this point, I have to think the only
48:. Delete opinions are very much in a minority. There does seem to be agreement that the content would be better presented in merged articles, but not as to the targerts of any such merges. I recommend further discussion on the relevant talkpages about possible merges. 715:-- whereas these articles are rather tiny and don't seem to have any value outside of their fictional universe. Maybe if the info gets merged into one single article, someone will see it and actually fix the content up a bit. 541:
Well, the link to this entry are red in Gustav Karl's, GM III's, Guncannon's and Guntank's article. I corrected them all, but at least play it fair next time, please? Now, back to topic...
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Pure fancruft, nearly zero reference to real world context including the Gundam media that these fictional concepts come from. This might be appropriate for a Gundam wiki but not here. --
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Guncannon and Guntank are the two of the most notable mecha in the Gundam franchaise, which by itself is notable; if not here, then definitely in Japan.
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This is generally what happens when people start hit-and-run AFDs instead of contacting the appropriate editors about article content.
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By the way, MER-C, I would love to know why you never tag things for cleanup and instead always leap for the PROD or AFD solution.
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everything here into one article? I would think that a separate topic for a specific thing within a fictional world is acceptable
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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the Guntank and Guncannon as those are units used by main characters in Gundam 0079 and thus noteable.
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Tomino's work. Also, why reader who want to read about mech a would want to read about show's author?
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AfD the article was very detailed and well-researched, and would have taken up too much space within
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Guncannon, has major role in story and cause inspiration on later mech show (Dragonar 2 from
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On Gustav Karl. Let just give you a hint: even in Gundam universe, Kustav Karl is unheard of.
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the two Zaku articles into a holistic "Zaku" article or a "List of Zaku mobile suits".
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Guncannon and Guntank, as they were two of the three original mobile suit concepts by
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Guntank, has major role in story but has no major inspiration that I can remember.
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the Zakus into the Zaku article, the same with the GM III into the GM article,
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there's a lot of important content to the article. E.g. in the recent
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pending discussion on the talk pages and merges as appropriate. --
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Just to be clear, my comment above constitutes a recommendation to
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Also, do not that we already have a much more refeined article on
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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delete 1000 pages of Gundam content and watch a firestorm ensue
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Ehh...Zaku I Early Type appear in Zeonic Front game. it
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MS-05A Zaku 1 Early Type
MS-05A Zaku 1 Early Type
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MS-05B Zaku 1
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FD-03 Gustav Karl
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