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31: 318:, cited in the article, list thirteen earlier DikuMUDs that were still running as of January 2004. Given the high attrition rate of muds in general, let alone after twelve and a half years, it's very probable that there were many, many others released prior to it as well. I don't think a merge to 513:
i.e. treated the same as any other topic. I thought it was interesting how there was a big hoo-hah-hah about us literally erasing all traces of MUD history, as though Knowledge (XXG) was physically the only place to publish such information. Perhaps if there was more interest in writing and
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is an expert in online games; being mentioned by him is reliable independent sourcing. Note that we've gone through and cleaned off most muds as NN. While this level of sourcing may seem inadequate, it is actually pretty good for an online, non-commercial game.
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You're certainly entitled to disagree, but this gets into a more fundamental discussion of "How should we cover individual M*'s in Knowledge (XXG)?" which seems a better question for Wikiproject Video Games than an individual AfD.
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Normally I would think relisting a debate for a third week a waste of time, but since there is an issue here with locating a book that may help decide the outcome, I'm going ahead in the hopes that somebody will find this book.
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The Google snippet view shows the extent of this coverage: one mention on page 79, noting that it is one of several games that "simulates Tolkein's world of Middle Earth." This is not significant coverage.
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I feel this is notable, in part due to the longevity of the MUD, and in part due to the tools that have crept up around it. If
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publishing books on MUDS with extensive coverage on particular games, there would be something for us to actually cite.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Coverage of this game appears to be limited to a single review at The Mud Connector
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no reliable sources, and the statistics in the article confirm non-notability.
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Or not. Interlibrary loan hasn't gotten it yet and I'm leaving town today.
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I expect to have a copy of the book referred to above in the next week.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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for doing such interesting things with player conflict..." That's
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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It's not clear to me what "early offspring" means, but possibly
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A list of SOME libraries holding the book Pcap recommends.
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Happy to wait for someone to take a look at the book. --
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then. A single self-published source is not enough for
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Hmm, "So a bunch of titles you've never heard of like
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Tons of self-published reviews 24: 492:and the associated discussion at 29: 47:Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review 41:deletion review on 2010 March 8 322:is reasonable on this basis. — 1: 777:http://mud.wikia.com/MUD_Wiki 764:19:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC) 731:03:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC) 717:15:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC) 700:07:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC) 685:20:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC) 667:20:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC) 636:04:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC) 619:00:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC) 601:19:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC) 568:19:10, 15 February 2010 (UTC) 524:12:51, 15 February 2010 (UTC) 509:22:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC) 477:19:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 462:18:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 432:18:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 410:13:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 384:11:41, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 359:18:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 332:14:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC) 609:. 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