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Grumiaux, Perlman, Shaham, Mutter, Szeryng, Accardo, etc, etc etc. And 34 and 59 are relatively modest totals compared to other soloists and other pieces. There's over 200 recordings of the Mendelssohn concerto. Also, its rare that the "albums" are considered works by themselves. Its extremely common for the individual works on classical albums to be collected and repackaged in different ways at a later date. I think the best solution is to have either a
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any way, no matter how well it was received. I imagine the one who made these articles probably did so on good faith, but there's just something so fundamentally wrong with this, though looking at the discussion linked from the article's talk page others disagree. It seems to me that instead of making pointless article pages, especially with redundant track listings, any award/accolade/etc info should be at the artist page. Then, as has been discussed now and again but never really gotten off the ground, a discography section (or separate page if need be) for individual works should be made, with accolades discussed there.
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I find it hard to put into words WHY classical albums that aren't tied with the work itself, as it were, shouldn't have pages, but they really shouldn't. There's 41 or more listings of albums for each of these concerti at
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The article is nothing but a bare track listing, containing no discussion whatever, or any other kind of useful information -- simply the track names, without even including their timings. It may or may not be a 2005 recording as stated; this is more likely to be the release (P) date.
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