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random list of pornstars for some reason doesn't appear in the GNG or PORNBIO. The FT link is the best of the bunch as it by a proper reporter who interviews her at the end. Its not an article about here but there are nods in the direction of notability there even if it is a bit thin in my opinion. I would say that this on its own isn't enough but 3-4 similar sources would be good enough.
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If you're interested in altering guidelines that have been agreed to by a consensus of the Knowledge (XXG) community, then by all means feel free to raise those ideas in the appropriate venue. That is how editors tightened WP:PORNBIO to exclude group awards and multiple nominations recently. Like
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It is a generally (sic. not officially) accepted standard that editors should (sic. not must) attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense (sic. !!!), and occasional exceptions may apply (sic. !!!). Any substantive edit to this page should reflect consensus. When in doubt, discuss
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Did not know that about Reuters so i apologize, but i do believe the debate, the talk show interview and other stuff should push her over GNG, either way i don't mind, i will admit that i do think Pornography inclusion guidelines are very strict and if this was a mainstream film actress she would
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N3 well in my mind, also we should not discount the 4 minor awards yes they are minor but combined with the appearances it should nudge her over our guidelines. Remember not everyone wins the "best" award in their career but seeing as she gets chosen for debates on Fox News and at Yale, plus the
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Linking to a search for the subject at XBIZ and AVN is extremely lame and if you want to cite sources you need to actually cite a source not provide the porn equivalent of a google search. Complex is a dreadful source - tabloid and the about link doesn't link anything and being 20 something in a
1221:. Thank you for that tool by the way Tarc shame my record is 36%, bad judgement with the table hockey tournaments, live and learn! Subtropical-man we as editors can't ignore policy as that would defeat the point of the project even if i myself disagree with some 464:", yet Ms. Alexander's 4 AVN wins are for "All-Girl (2)", "Couples (1)", and "Group Sex (1)" categories. Can you explain how "winner of an AVN award" is valid, when the guideline you're basing that vote on excludes the types of awards that the subject has one? 383: 220: 411:
Yes, I read it. Please do not write about my person and my vote. I have the right to vote and you have no right to troll my voice only because it is a different opinion. Also, I agree with opinions by GuzzyG and Rebecca1990.
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add that with what Rebecca found (was interviewed as a guest on a late night tv show!), cameo in a mainstream cable tv show (Entourage) plus her HBO softcore work, according to her imdb a minor role in the mainstream film
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Even, if fails GNG/PORNBIO - there are doubts as to whether, GNG/PORNBIO is not mandatory and this is not official rule to compulsory use with no exceptions. Monique Alexander is encyclopedic person for many users, so.
986:, in case you are interested, is currently running at a 26.1% success rate. Being wrong isn't a wiki-crime, but it may be somewhat of an indicator as to how far afield an editor is from best practices in the project. 184: 83: 884:". So, fails current WP:PORNBIO, WP:GNG (both parts of Knowledge (XXG):Notability) requirements is not synonym for automatic removal. If there are the opinions to keep the article, this article should be keep. 253: 397:, which excludes group awards. The consensus of the Knowledge (XXG) community trumps personal opinions regarding a notability guideline, thus this vote should be discarded in the final tally. 328:. Fails PORNBIO with only scene-related award wins. Fails GNG without substantial coverage by reliable sources. Searches for RS coverage yield announcements and reprinted press releases. 137: 78: 178: 1157: 233: 144: 718:- Trivial mentions in fashion magazines, e.g. "top 100 porn stars", do not satisfy the notability guidelines, nor does the subject meet any criteria of wp:pornbio. 544: 305: 776:
Invalid. The college newspaper covers the debate and mentions Ms. Alexander a single time in a single sentence. As for Reuters, did you note the "
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I am going to have to say keep to this due to being in a mainstream ABC Nightline televised debate held at yale to discuss pornography,
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When editors ignore established guidelines and make poor arguments to support their deviations, I will call them out on that. As for
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Has won a well-known and significant industry award. Awards in scene-related and ensemble categories are excluded from consideration.
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Decent sourcing hasn't emerged so I'm going to go with my comments on Rebecca1990's vote above and say this isn't across the line.
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multiple appearances in mainstream media + her four minor awards should make up for no major award and finally a talk radio gig
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AVN award counts. Group scenes are not applicable (and "All-girl"-whatever is not a significant award for individual merit).
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it or not, we discuss deletions via the criteria that we have, not the criteria that we wish we could have, to paraphrase
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As usual, rebecca1990's reasoning is flawed, digging up te same brief name-drops and unreliable sources.
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Note: Mr. Subtropical's "winner of AVN Award" entry above is plainly against the current version of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I won't make a comment on her looks as that would be very inappropriate of me wouldn't it
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Please read intro of Knowledge (XXG):Notability (including WP:PORNBIO, WP:GNG): "
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Again: where is (please link) consensus for current WP:PORNBIO requirements?
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/02/11/idUS174192+11-Feb-2008+BW20080211
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http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2008/2/22/yale-grants-self-one-week-of/
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http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece.php?id=84904&mi=all&q=tera
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Even though it fails to pass either the GNG or PORNBIO. /slow clap
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Reuters is not responsible? and what? I do not see anything wrong.
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Does not meet the notability requirements for pornographic actors.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Reuters is not responsible for the content in this press release
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how do I know if current WP:PORNBIO is not prank by some IP
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