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137:, and therefore not itself original research. Although their assertion of 500+ converts may be non-factual, due to the nature of religious freedom burden of proof is on those claiming Matrixism is a hoax, and currently there's nothing other than negative data (specifically, that there's nothing indicating its existence but the website and a number of posts on various boards from a few IP addresses). Under the circumstances, removing references to Matrixism soley because it might be a hoax asserts the POV that it is a hoax. Removing references to it for other reasons (lacks numbers/significance for its own artcle, doesn't belong in articles about the movie) may well be valid, but these don't prevent reference to Matrixism in an article where it evidently does belong, specifically 105:
article, but it's a useful example of a Fiction-based New Religious Movement (especially one in its early development). Although it could be a hoax, there's currently insufficient evidence either way, therefore removing references to it on that basis constitutes religious discrimination and a
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This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.
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section) does not imply that Matrixism is a "bona fide religion" due to the nature of NRMs, which is detailed in the article. That there is at least one person claiming sincere adherance to the Matrixism faith is
293:, hoax, and an attempted merge to the only article where a mention is merited was rejected. (As a redirect with content in its history that is no longer merged, this doesn't belong on 71:. Non-encyclopedic. Hoax. The word gets a lot of Google hits, but all but one that I saw turn out to be blogs/bbs's-- someone's got way too much time on their hands. -- 267: 255: 199:
were deemed unencyclopedic and removed in a recent RfC. Additionally, linkspamming vandals have taken the redirect as an invitation to linkspam
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Implication that it is a bona fide religion despite any evidence is nonfactual and POV. Additionally, given that there is absolutely no
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Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
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A new religious movement that is only known to have "at least one" adherent (and not even that is known) is not encyclopedic.
44: 97:, include appropriate reference to Matrixism there. The Matrixism faith currently claims over 500 followers according to 159:- the observable fact of at least one declared adherent means that the existence of Matrixism is not original research. 263: 219: 204: 156: 138: 129: 125: 94: 90: 41: 117:
evidence of its existence, references to "Matrixism" in Knowledge (XXG) constitute original research.
101:. May not be sufficiently significant to warrant its own article, nor an appropriate addition to 186: 38: 302: 27:
This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below.
294: 275: 227: 160: 142: 107: 282: 215: 208: 149: 118: 76: 61: 183: 218:'s factually correct comment above, my inclusion of a reference to Matrixism in the 72: 98: 298: 245: 200: 196: 179: 102: 50: 189: 223: 134: 141:; and they should not prevent redirect of this stub to that article. 195:
That was what was originally done, but all references to Matrixism in
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since it's not an article anymore but a redirect (most recently to
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You're probably right, I'll list it there later today, hopefully.
258:, and it's possible that this shouldn't've been listed on 268:
Knowledge (XXG):Guide to Votes for deletion#Nomination
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155:That's not what makes it worthy of inclusion in 58:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for Deletion#April_24 8: 256:Knowledge (XXG):Guide to Votes for deletion 226:) was neither linkspamming nor vandalism. 157:New religious movement#Fiction-based NRMs 130:New religious movement#Fiction-based NRMs 95:New religious movement#Fiction-based NRMs 272:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for deletion 106:violation of Knowledge (XXG)'s NPOV. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 274:. I have no idea how to fix this. 260:Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion 222:article (which included a link to 24: 182:would be most appropriate imho). 214:I'd like to note that despite 1: 178:and replace with a redirect ( 33:The result of the debate was 314:Please do not edit this page 29:This page is no longer live. 305:) 12:05, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC) 128:article (especially in the 333: 192:12:47, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC) 278:21:35, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC) 248:00:08, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC) 211:15:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) 152:19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) 145:16:49, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC) 121:15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) 110:05:31, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC) 64:00:34, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) 285:22:00, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 230:16:18, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC) 163:01:42, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC) 45:22:29, 6 May 2005 (UTC) 264:New religious movement 220:New religious movement 205:New religious movement 139:New religious movement 126:New religious movement 91:New religious movement 254:- I was just reading 224:the Matrixism website 203:in the past, and now 135:an observable fact 124:Inclusion in the 324: 332: 331: 327: 326: 325: 323: 322: 321: 320: 54: 35:deleted already 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 330: 328: 319: 318: 307: 306: 288: 287: 286: 249: 235: 234: 233: 232: 231: 172: 171: 170: 169: 168: 167: 166: 165: 164: 80: 77:Talk:Matrixism 53: 48: 42:(spill yours?) 32: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 329: 317: 315: 309: 308: 304: 300: 296: 292: 289: 284: 280: 279: 277: 273: 269: 265: 261: 257: 253: 250: 247: 243: 239: 236: 229: 225: 221: 217: 213: 212: 210: 206: 202: 198: 194: 193: 191: 188: 185: 181: 177: 173: 162: 158: 154: 153: 151: 147: 146: 144: 140: 136: 131: 127: 123: 122: 120: 116: 112: 111: 109: 104: 100: 96: 92: 88: 84: 81: 78: 74: 70: 67: 66: 65: 63: 59: 52: 49: 47: 46: 43: 40: 36: 30: 19: 313: 310: 297:, either.) — 290: 251: 241: 237: 175: 114: 86: 82: 68: 56:Relisted on 55: 39:Mindspillage 34: 28: 26: 246:Sean Curtin 174:Very well. 115:independent 276:KickAir8P~ 228:KickAir8P~ 201:The Matrix 197:The Matrix 180:The Matrix 161:KickAir8P~ 143:KickAir8P~ 108:KickAir8P~ 103:the Matrix 283:Philwelch 216:Philwelch 209:Philwelch 150:Philwelch 119:Philwelch 99:their FAQ 62:Philwelch 51:Matrixism 266:). See 242:redirect 87:Redirect 252:Comment 73:Mwanner 299:Korath 295:WP:RFD 291:Delete 238:Delete 187:adiant 176:Delete 69:Delete 85:as a 16:< 303:Talk 270:and 244:. - 240:and 83:Keep 93:or 89:to 207:. 190:_* 60:. 37:. 316:. 301:( 184:R 79:)

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
Mindspillage
(spill yours?)
22:29, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Matrixism
Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for Deletion#April_24
Philwelch
Mwanner
Talk:Matrixism
New religious movement
New religious movement#Fiction-based NRMs
their FAQ
the Matrix
KickAir8P~
Philwelch
New religious movement
New religious movement#Fiction-based NRMs
an observable fact
New religious movement
KickAir8P~
Philwelch
New religious movement#Fiction-based NRMs
KickAir8P~
The Matrix
R
adiant
_*
The Matrix
The Matrix
New religious movement

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