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He was giving you a "this or that" option. Would you rather face someone in wrestling or would you go against some kid (Blnguyen means high-schooler) who has almost a graduate degree level of knowledge in a particular subject? Anyway, it's not really relevant to this discussion, so let's drop that
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I know very well what a meet of champions is. It's where the winner (and often runners-up and wild cards) of every group/division in the state wrestler to see who's the top in that event. So, he won his group, but lost amogst all the groups. So there are people in the state who are better at his
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for crying out loud). This kid doesn't come close. So he won a state championship - congratulations, but so what? (Warning: rough math ahead!) High schools in the United States are typically divided into three divisions based on the number of students, in order to level the playing field when it
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I actually did suspect this. I think the whole CApin2win voting delete was just to be disruptive more than anything else. I've also assumed the other connection with
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Winning one state HS division championship is not sufficiently notable by itself to warrant an article. We've deleted NCAA state/regional champs and Junior world champions based on the consensus that that was still short of the highest level of competition, I'm going to need more than continual
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intended future readers to blindly apply the words on the page. Look at the Talk page archives if you want all the color and nuance. Or apply common sense. The intent was to allow coverage of
Olympians or their equivalents. That's not just my opinion - that's demonstrable fact which can be
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provides the most details about Boyd, but it just offers details about his year, rank going into the tournament, and weight. Also, this article will remain a two line stub for as long as it is on
Knowledge (XXG). Unless he stars in collegiate wrestling, there's not going to be any expansion.
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It was directed toward your comment regarding IMO. The IMO is an international competition, that pits the best and brighest from one country against another country's elite students. There have been a number of high school IMO students who went on to become famous mathematicians
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That's essentially what you're saying here. You're saying he's notable because he's wrestled in the state meet of champions which you claim to be the highest level he can ever achieve. So if he's notable, then anyone else who wrestled in that tournament is notable?
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how that clause was meant to be interpreted. The arguments to keep require us to parse the notability criteria to such a narrow population that essentially everyone becomes "notable" for something. We do not want and can not support articles at that level.
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Nationals along with the Grand National and Ironman that require competition in all 3 versions. So there's a lot above the state HS level to compete in at folkstyle, and I'm not even sure winning most of those would confer notability as a single event.
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I think you wrote, "I think you need a reality check." twice. Why are you asking me if I want to compete against kids in whatever competition it is you're talking about? How is that relevant to this article?
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Wow. Didn't see that coming at all! Strangely, CApin2win initially voted delete because "this wrestler sucks". Why would the one account vote delete while another vote keep? Maybe it's a school IP?
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over 1,000 high school "state champions". He's not one of 48 state champions. He's not even his own state's champion; he's just the champion of his division. He lost at the meet of champions.
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NOT SURE i read the rest of this page and it says since he competed he is notable so the article should stay but i read some more and now someone is saying the guideilnes are wrong? wtf is this
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repetition of the claim to convince me that this is top of the line. Also well short of general, as the sourcing is weak. If there was an impressive level of coverage it would be another story.
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Australia is so bad that none of the top 100 biology students in Australia are from SA), let alone a student from a weak third world country who got < 10% would get a wiki-bio. Nope.
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state for 48 states. If you then consider that a lot of states have several divisions/groups, it just increases. And what do you call the guy who wins the meet of champions?
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I was multiplying that across all the weight classes across all levels/divisions. If there are 14 weight classes and 48 states, that's 672 wrestlers. And that's if you
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1341:matter.
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