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206:, you would easily meet Knowledge (XXG)'s standards for notability. Third-party sources in addition to Ottinger's TV station (which is a reliable source, anyway) have now been included to support the article's assertions. By the way, the lack of a birth date as a justification for deletion is a new one on me. I guess we better delete the article on 280:
I would like to note that the above user seems to be stalking a lot of the discussions I take a part in, and is discussing the opposite viewpoint on purpose, possibly to make me look bad. Second, I do not feel his reasoning in this vote is valid. There are sources, but none of them are
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Why is this even controversial? His main claim to fame is that he hosts a high school quiz competition that airs Saturday afternoons on a small-town PBS affiliate. The "efforts to assert notability" are not successful as the sources cited in the article are not independent and reliable.
244:. Should also note that the two keep voters appear to be very biased on game shows, and seem to want to keep the article for their like of anything game show related, not the merits of how this does not meet notability guidelines. None of the references count as 497:. He also produces television programming for public schools in the area. Then again, I'm a game show fan, what does my vote count? *rolls eyes* I find it funny, just because people who are game show fans are voting in this, doesn't mean their votes don't count. 201:
If you had hosted a television game show for almost two decades, been nominated for a statewide Emmy award, operated one of the main Internet forums and several leading web sites on game shows, and given Ken Jennings a real run for his money on
474:-Person is notable, and not just for local TELEVISION game shows, (not radio as the author suggested). Is also the owner and adminstrator of one of the largest game show forums, with frequent posters that work on game shows, including 360: 349:
I don't contribute much here any more, and look at these recent AFDs that I have commented on that he has jumped in soon after I have edited: , , , and this afd. I'm not fully certain of things, but I am suspicious.
173:; QuizBusters is a televised game show, not a radio one. He is also notable in the game show world due to his administrator status with The Game Show Forum, his websites, and being a Jeopardy! contestant. 88: 329:
is following someone around with the intent of causing annoyance or distress. There's no evidence of that intention. That said, without blaming anyone, I think it would be best if both of you follow
226:– with an, er, interesting picture – that calls Matt Ottinger "highly esteemed and legendary." Well, I'd agree with the former, but I doubt that Matt would call himself "legendary" (wink). 142: 378:
me in other discussions, and after you made your recommendation above, should curb his suspicions. I will, however, avoid engaging Danny per your suggestion. Sincerely, --
333:: disengagement. Your prior interaction has been tense, to say the least. You'd both be better off to not comment in AFDs in which the other has commented. Please do so.-- 48:. - Consensus was that coverage of Matt Ottinger was not independent of Matt Ottinger or his employers and his noted fame has yet to be covered by independent sources. -- 83: 185:; I looked for independent coverage, but found only stuff from his local school and station, which is not independent and hence not sufficient per 240:
NN local tv personality/webmaster. None of the websites are notable in a mainstream context, and he hosts a public-access show, which fails
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standards - so non-notable that we don't know when or where he was born red flags of notability fo modern biographies.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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That complicates matters, but it's a massive AFD. I don't think Dannycali participated by following you.--
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nn local radio game show host, previous afd ended in no consensus but his notability is still not up to
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19:22, 19 September 2007 Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles (Talk | contribs) (35,224 bytes) (k) (undo)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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222:. AfD's aren't usually noted for humor. But I just found this interesting 325:
Roi, that was not a personal attack. Dannycali, Roi is not stalking you;
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19:43, 19 September 2007 Dannycali (Talk | contribs) (38,137 bytes)
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Dear Chaser, just to point something out from the history of
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very serious, intelligent and well thought through analysis
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 519:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 458:, and it looks like I'm not the only one. 248:, and are just local/minor publications. 454:from some people on the keep side here 81: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 304:Knowledge (XXG):No personal attacks 84:Articles for deletion/Matt Ottinger 80: 24: 300:Knowledge (XXG):Assume good faith 480:, Television game show producer 456:whose conduct is beyond reproach 502:20:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 467:02:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 443:02:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 400:16:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 387:23:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 374:Therefore, someone who posted 355:20:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 342:18:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 331:step two of dispute resolution 321:14:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 290:02:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 269:22:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 253:17:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 231:12:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 215:12:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 194:03:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 178:02:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 165:01:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 68:09:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC) 1: 382:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 316:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 264:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 536: 512:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 79:AfDs for this article: 312:, etc. Sincerely, -- 441: 527: 514: 427: 385: 383: 319: 317: 267: 265: 140: 122: 65: 59: 54: 34: 535: 534: 530: 529: 528: 526: 525: 524: 523: 517:deletion review 510: 381: 379: 315: 313: 263: 261: 113: 97: 94: 77: 63: 57: 50: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 533: 531: 522: 521: 505: 504: 469: 445: 413: 412: 411: 410: 409: 408: 407: 406: 405: 404: 403: 402: 372: 371: 370: 367: 357: 293: 292: 272: 271: 255: 235: 234: 233: 196: 180: 162:Carlossuarez46 147: 146: 93: 92: 91: 86: 78: 76: 71: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 532: 520: 518: 513: 507: 506: 503: 500: 496: 492: 489: 485: 483: 482:Ron Greenberg 479: 477: 473: 470: 468: 465: 461: 457: 453: 449: 446: 444: 439: 435: 431: 426: 425: 419: 415: 414: 401: 398: 394: 390: 389: 388: 384: 377: 373: 368: 365: 364: 362: 358: 356: 353: 348: 345: 344: 343: 340: 336: 332: 328: 324: 323: 322: 318: 311: 308: 305: 301: 297: 296: 295: 294: 291: 288: 284: 279: 276: 275: 274: 273: 270: 266: 259: 256: 254: 251: 247: 243: 239: 236: 232: 229: 225: 221: 218: 217: 216: 213: 209: 205: 200: 197: 195: 192: 188: 184: 181: 179: 176: 175:Andy Saunders 172: 169: 168: 167: 166: 163: 159: 155: 151: 144: 138: 134: 130: 126: 121: 117: 112: 108: 104: 100: 99:Matt Ottinger 96: 95: 90: 87: 85: 82: 75: 74:Matt Ottinger 72: 70: 69: 66: 60: 55: 53: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 511: 508: 488:Ken Jennings 471: 459: 455: 451: 447: 423: 417: 375: 346: 298:Please read 277: 257: 237: 219: 208:Jesus Christ 203: 198: 182: 170: 149: 148: 51: 45: 43: 31: 28: 424:ObiterDicta 228:Casey Abell 212:Casey Abell 476:Randy West 499:FamicomJL 495:Jeopardy! 430:pleadings 352:Dannycali 287:Dannycali 250:Dannycali 204:Jeopardy! 490:himself 327:stalking 191:Dicklyon 143:View log 52:Jreferee 438:appeals 347:Comment 278:Comment 220:Comment 187:WP:NOTE 116:protect 111:history 486:, and 464:JJJ999 448:delete 434:errata 418:Delete 393:Chaser 335:Chaser 242:WP:BIO 238:Delete 183:Delete 158:WP:BLP 154:WP:BIO 150:Delete 120:delete 46:Delete 416:(ec) 376:after 283:WP:RS 246:WP:RS 137:views 129:watch 125:links 16:< 472:Keep 302:and 258:Keep 224:note 199:Keep 171:Keep 156:and 133:logs 107:talk 103:edit 141:– ( 436:• 432:• 428:( 395:- 363:: 337:- 309:, 189:. 135:| 131:| 127:| 123:| 118:| 114:| 109:| 105:| 462:. 440:) 397:T 339:T 145:) 139:) 101:( 64:C 61:/ 58:T

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