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This term is notable and can be covered in an encyclopedic fashion, even if it is now passe. It is a part of history. Simply add "Catholic" to Google News Archive and Google Books searches for a wealth of references. We have a category called "Pejorative terms for people" that has 250 articles.
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dealing at length with Catholic doctrine and tradition, modern and historical, on abstinence from meat on certain days. This used to be an important aspect of Catholic Christianity and needs an article. If we have one somewhere already, this one should be merged to it.
451:. I am just scraping the surface of the reliable sources discussing this term. On a personal note, I was raised Catholic although I left that church over 40 years ago. I heard "mackerel snapper" many times (usually jokingly) as a child in Detroit. 162: 251: 296:
is one of the arguments to avoid in a deletion discussion. For what it is worth (which is about as much as your "never heard of it"), this non-Catholic has heard the expression.
123: 52:. There are some good suggestions for redirecting but the consensus for that is not strong enough for that to be the result here so that should be left to the normal editing/ 556:. Common usage years ago. Racial slurs are a part of Knowledge (XXG). Religious ones should not be exempt. More of a joke by the 50s or so. Should have references though. 156: 225: 194: 497:
per LOS. While I've heard the term myself, I'm at a loss to imagine what substantive could possibly be said about it beyond what's already listed in the
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pointless article.. as a catholic I have never heard this term, and it is not worthy of being on wikipedia as an article. --
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We have a category called "Ethnic and religious slurs" that has 116 articles. This particular slur was discussed in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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these sources be used to make this something beyond a dictionary definition though?
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was criticized widely for using it. It has been discussed in many books, including
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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if it can be sourced per Cullen. Seems to be beyond a mere dictionary term.
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per Lady of Shalott. I don't think this term has any potential beyond a
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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on September 6, 1998. It has been discussed in the
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Former U.S. Senator 321:Without good sources for something more than a 226:list of Language-related deletion discussions 8: 630:a good historical article for a phrase. -- 246: 220: 250:: This debate has been included in the 224:: This debate has been included in the 445:Words Apart: The Language of Prejudice 195:WP:Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 449:FUBAR: Soldier Slang of World War II 201:, and a letter from a member of the 437:American Folklore: An Encyclopedia 24: 632:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 1: 566:00:59, 31 December 2010 (UTC) 549:20:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC) 532:12:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC) 510:05:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC) 486:01:24, 31 December 2010 (UTC) 461:05:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC) 369:03:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC) 350:01:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC) 313:01:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC) 285:23:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC) 267:20:58, 28 December 2010 (UTC) 241:20:58, 28 December 2010 (UTC) 215:14:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC) 640:06:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC) 623:23:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC) 593:21:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC) 66:17:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC) 674: 333:, which already lists it. 610:Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison 650:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 499:List of religious slurs 447:, and Gordon Rottman's 415:. 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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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WP:IDONTKNOWIT
BRD
Ron Ritzman
talk
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Mackerel Snapper
Mackerel Snapper
edit
talk
history
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links
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logs
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View log
Google
books
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WP:Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary
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