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232:, and Google News usually has a ratio of reliable to unreliable sources several orders of magnitude higher than a Google web search. I don't understand Arabic, but can see that most of the first twenty or so of those thousand hits have pictures of our article subject, so are not about some namesake. I also suggested that Arabic-reading editors should evaluate this before it is considered for deletion, but I can see no evidence that the nominator has done anything to try to get such editors involved. I would have thought that someone who claims to be an ambassador for Knowledge (XXG) would take such an approach rather than rush straight to deletion. 230: 511:
on the basis there are Arabic sources. Phil Bridger is of course 100% correct: There is nor requirement for there to be English sources. We prefer English sources when they are available, but even so we would add the most complete and most reliable sources also even if they were in another language.
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A proposed deletion of this article failed with the suggestion that Majid Al Muhandis turns up several Google hits when the Arabic name is used. Having translated these through Google Translate, however, it would appear that Majid Al Muhandis is also the name of an engineer, and that most of the
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No one has proven that there is significant coverage in Arabic sources. I have contacted WikiProject Arab World to notify them of this discussion, but no one has responded. The burden of proof rests on those who seek to keep the article, just as it does in the case of those who seek to reinsert
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Regarding the nominator's claim that many of the sources are about an engineer with this name, that it a misunderstanding of the results of machine translation. The subject's surname translates as "engineer", but that doesn't make him an engineer any more than I am a bridge-builder.
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which only mentions him twice. He is probably a well-known singer for Pakistan but I'm not fluent with Urdu (or any of the Middle Eastern languages) so I wouldn't know where and how to search. However, Google News found two relevant results, one news article
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Wikipedical's comment is contrary to established WP:V/RS policy, and Swister/Twister should have realized that even if there are sources they personally can not use, others will be able to. We have several thousand enWP people who can read Arabic.
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entries are about the engineer and not the singer about whom this article is written. A search for reliable, secondary sources reveals an insufficient amount of significant coverage. This article fails
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I apologize for having misinterpreted your edit summary. I have notified WikiProject Arab World of this deletion discussion.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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I must correct some inaccuracies in the nomination. When I contested
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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There is no requirement for sources to be in English.
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deletion I did not refer to several Google hits, but
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This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (
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