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1114:- The end result of merge/redirect will be information will be lost and deleted. Proof, I added parts (not the whole article) into Barack Obama and it was removed in seconds. Therefore, we MUST keep Malia Obama or some information will be lost. For those who like censorship, merge/redirect can be a ploy to get rid of information they don't like. That's not accusing all merge/redirect supporters of censorship, just that this is the end result. So KEEP and improve. 1907:. I particularly point out the section titled "Political positions of Malia Obama", the nine year old child. Further, even after the ridiculous excesses regarding Hannah Montana, Paris Hilton, asthma, etc, are removed, I believe this article should be deleted, as the subject has absolutely no notability beyond being the young child of a candidate in an election. I don't object to returning to a redirect to her father as had been there untouched until today 301:. You know very well that there is a huge difference between Michelle Obama who actively campaigns around the coutry and regularly appears in the media and her daughter Malia who is out of the public eye. Do not, as you did, add AfD templates that point back here to articles unrelated to this discussion simply because you don't like the way this discussion is going. -- 1660:; if someone is looking for an article on this, it's important to have the redirect, which points them to all the information we have on the subject which would be in her father's article. Otherwise, she's just not notable in and of herself. Perhaps if Obama becomes president, she'll have enough notability, but today it's just tabloid news.-- 1885:
to her father. She is nine. She can't even be anywhere without her parents. Most of the other children of politicans mentioned are at the age of majority and have done things on their own in life. Frankly, it would be better if she didn't have an article; nothing really good can come from it and
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per nom. Media coverage of Malia herself has been minimal; she is only notable in relation to her father and substantially all the coverage of her opinions, etc. has come not directly from her, but from interviews with her parents. The article does not even report the sourced information correctly.
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I'd support a redirect to her father's article as well though. Just being the daughter of a notable person doesn't necessarily make you notable yourself. Also this article is so full of fluff (she Likes Hannah Montana and Beyonce, and won't stay at a Hilton to protest Paris Hilton?) I could stuff a
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You should try to call what you disagree with as disruption. We should treat all kids equally, Black and White. I don't want to change Knowledge rules, just that we should delete all kids or none of the kids. The kids listed are equally famous or not famous. Those that are much more famous are
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Then nominate those articles for deletion individually, but leave it out of this process. They have nothing to do with this article or this discussion. Adding AFD tags to those articles that point back here is simply being disruptive. Accept that there is no support or consensus for keeping this
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I've thought of it and wife Obama qualifies as an article. However, the other kids of politicians equally qualify or disqualify. So, like Grz, I am adding the names of the kids, but not Michelle Obama. Wade Edwards does not deserve special inclusion because he is dead because we routinely delete
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You have misread my comments. People notable only for a single event, i.e. the identity of their father, should not have their own articles, they should be mentioned in their father's article only. The policy makes no age distinction but I do. Minors deserve greater protection and privacy than is
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Thank you DrKiernan for your seemingly wise advice. Your advice is incorrect. Your reference link makes no distinction of age. IF Knowledge policy states "Articles about children are prohibited" then I will abide by such rule. However, there is NO SUCH rule. All of the politician's children
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for anyone who might come here and search on her name, although I think it is not particularly necessary to have even a redirect. (2)The second article is nothing more than a copy of what the editor wanted in the first article, and was set up as a conglomeration of several other articles about
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Becuase all that is being report is that she likes Beyonce and doesn't like Paris Hilton. There's no other notability there, all the articles written supposedly about her are just fluff pieces about the campaign. Where does she have any other notability other than the fact her dad may be the
847:(E/C) I think you misunderstand my meaning. I'm not arguing that the Enquirer is trivial. Rather, I'm saying the coverage was trivial. I.e., it was not an in-depth article about her. It seems like each article has a few lines about her, which is the definition of trivial coverage. Best, -- 1326:
Try putting any of Malia's info in the Barack article and it will be deleted pronto. Malia is a kid, I know. Abuse her and attack her in an article, no. But famous children do have articles. Think it's trivial, improve it. There are so many google references, some with good information.
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But the incident took place in 2005, not 2004; she didn't "publicly question" her father but rather was overheard by a television camera crew while talking to her father; and she didn't ask "why he was not running for vice-president". What the source actually says is:
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inherited, and as any coverage of Malia is currently only as a result of the coverage of her father, there is no assertion of notability. Should significant coverage of Malia be found in the future, there is no prejudice against recreating a suitable article. --
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For the purposes of wikipedia, she is no more notable than Barack Obama's coffee mug which is also frequently mentioned by reliable sources. She is a biographical detail in his life, not a notable figure on her own. I would also support the redirect option.
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This child is not notable in her own right. The sources are all, essentially, trivial mentions of her - they're really talking about her Dad. After deletion, a redirect is fine. ETA: and it's a coatrack - check the state of the article after
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that's been nominated with it. (And before any accusations are hurled, I want to point out that I'm running as an Obama supporter for delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. I like her daddy; but she's non-notable, period.)
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Just being related to somebody famous, no matter how closely, does not make one notable. Unless and until she does something important on her own other than include half of a Presidential candidate's DNA, she doesn't get an article. โ€”
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9. Also note that there is no minimum age that people must be for them to be included in Knowledge. You don't have to be an adult to have a Knowledge article. We are not showing a naked Malia or revealing her social security number.
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Why would her being a fan of Hannah Montana be mentioned in her father's article? Even if there were enough non-trivial coverage about Malia to create an article about her, I doubt her liking Hannah Montana would be included.
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articles written about 9/11 victims. What I am doing is not making a point but developing specific criteria. So everyone get's treated the same, black and white, boy and girl, same articles kept, same article deleted.
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and as such has been mentioned trivially in reliable sources and the mentions have always been made in connection with her very notable father. Since mentions of her in these reliable sources has been trivial
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People magazine is not trivial, unlike the National Enquirer. Also featured in major newspapers and national newspapers, like USA Today and the New York Times. Why not help write it, not criticize it?
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Any admin who hasn't contributed could do so. I'd be happy to see that. Certainly the disruption from Watchingobama needs to stop. On the other hand, the discussion hasn't been running for that long.
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8. Others have added information, templates, infoboxes, references, not just me. Malia is not an obscure school or rock band, she is one of the few senator's daughters that is featured in the news.
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See Cate Edwards AFD. Same facts. Some claim she is not notable and wanted the article deleted. It stayed. Fight race discrimination. If you keep Cate Edwards, you must keep Malia Obama.
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Nonsense indeed. There's a significant difference between a 26-year-old woman who has actively campaigned for her father and a 9-year-old girl who is presumably focused on spelling tests. โ€”
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Also adding children of candidates and a grandson. Cate Edwards, Wade Edwards, David Eisenhower, Vanessa Kerry. Michelle Obama added but may be re-created after she becomes First Lady.
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to the article on her father. He's of course plenty notable. There's not that much to be said about her at this point though, and what there is is directly related to their relationship.
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What current or former President is she related to? Even if she was, you'd have to point out those previous discussions, since I can find no policy or guideline that states this. โ€”
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the second to remove two references for an unbelievably trivial comment Barack made about his daughter not wanting to patronize Hilton hotels because of Paris Hilton,
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listed in this AFD are equally notable/non-notable. Note that I did not include John Kerry's other daughter as she is a filmmaker who made a famous film.
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Notability is not inherited. Just because pops is famous does not make her so. Hannah Montana notwithstanding. I'd say redirect to Barack Obama. Mahalo. --
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What information, the fact she likes Hannah Montana? Again everything in this article is trivial and can be mentioned in the article about her father.
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requires significant coverage of the individual. The coverage of Malia, as has been brought up in the discussion, has been trivial. Also, as per
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In 2004, Malia publicly questioned her father as to why he was not running for vice-president. "Shouldn't you be the vice president first?"
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Why would it go in any article? It's important to no one besides Miss Obama herself (and Miley Cyrus's accountant, to a small extent). โ€”
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Will try, but guaranteed it will be deleted. Article is too long (Mr. Obama) so Malia stuff is guaranteed to be removed. I'll quote you.
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unlikely that some reader, looking for info on Barack, actually types the name of a 9 year old girl instead. Delete, no redirect.
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4. Notable information such as opposition to Hilton Corp. This is not just a stub saying "Malia is daughter of Barack, end of stub"
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That's my point actually, there's nothing here for an article, and yeah I know that HM stuff wouldn't go into her dad's article.
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3. Several sources/article about the kid, not the father. These appeared in USA Today, People, New York Daily News, etc.
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2. Many, many other articles of presidential candidates' kids like Wade Edwards, Cate Edwards, Barbara Bush (daughter).
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there are probably a number of good wikipedians who will want to have a voice here. It's worth running the full time.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Sweet mother of pearl, man.. I have not blanked anything. I've made three edits on the article. The first to
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probably would have gotten articles at the time if WP had existed in 1977 and 1993) but not until then.
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1. notable very, very close relative of one of the most written about politicians in the U.S. today.
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article and move on. If you want to continue your crusade in separate discussions, have at it. --
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5. Bobblehead, Tvoz, and Scjessey have been blanking out so they should be counted as one vote.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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the child of a politician since neither of his parents actually sought elective office. --
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Not applicable. Mother gave interview and revealed info. So no privacy concerns exists.
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NOT listed! I can go along with all the kids deleted or none of the kids deleted.
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accorded to adults. The others listed are not minors (and in one case not living).
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to main article on Obama. More reasonably covered in the article about her father.
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only, and not to any other articles that may have been listed in the meanwhile.
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Per Josiah Rowe; privacy for nine year old child and WP:BASICHUMANDECENCY. (Why
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the only thing notable is her father. She can be covered on his page. Redirect
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Malia Obama is the 9-year-old daughter of U.S. presidential candidate
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The majority of comments at this AfD have been made in relation to
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already to be adding trivial new ones about 9-year-old children.
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6. Cate Edwards is not Crap so WP:othercrapexist does not apply.
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7. Article hasn't been given a chance to be expanded.
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Malia Obama
Malia Obama
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Children of American Politicians
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