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337:. This guy is getting a lot of negative attention at the moment, and I know that inclines people to delete sometimes, but he is still the candidate of a leading party for Tennessee's Senate seat. He's certainly unlikely to win, but that's true of much less fringe-y candidates in certain constituencies. I urge that we consider Clayton's notability under GNG, BIO, and POLITICIAN, without letting the tenor of the coverage bias us. We may yet decide that the coverage is flash-in-the-pan. I'm not voting at present. – 364:: "Unelected candidates for a national legislature or other national office are not viewed as having inherent notability and are often deleted or merged into long lists of campaign hopefuls, such as New Democratic Party candidates, 2004 Canadian federal election, or into articles detailing the specific race in question, such as United States Senate election in Nevada, 2010." I suspect that quite a bit of content about Clayton and his campaign and positions could end up being used in that article. -- 52:
to delete this material. There is substantial and well-argued support for a merge, and indeed there is very nearly a consensus for it, but I don't think we're quite there. Discussion about the possible merge can continue on the article's talk page until consensus about it is reached. What this AfD
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Obviously notable. He won the primary election, the Dem party disavows, etc. Plenty of coverage of him and the election. The argument that the elected nominee for U.S. senate from a major party isn't notable seems absurd. How does deleting this article improve the encyclopedia or serve its readers
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situation, not something that merits a full-scale encyclopedia biography. For background, it took only 25 petition signatures to get on the primary ballot in Tennessee; the party did not have any approval over the candidates who filed; and the state has an open primary in which voting was heavy on
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I have expanded and updated the article from the ample coverage this individual has recieved in reliable independent sources (the core basis for establishing notability). As he received tens of thousand of votes in a previous (2008) Senate primary candidacy, and given the extent of the ongoing
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My view on this is not because of any concern about negative (or positive) coverage; it's because the usual practice here has been cover unelected candidates, if they are otherwise non-notable, in the article about the particular election. See
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the Republican side this year. This guy won the primary by accident; he will lose by a landslide in November, and no good purpose is served by discussing his biography and political views in an article. Article topic can be merged into
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which rightly guards against hundreds of new articles each year for long-short candidates of very temporary notability. But I'd like to see a little common-sense injected there, per 2010
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There is vanishingly little chance of this guy winning, although some right-wing Republicans have suggested that they may vote for him because he's more conservative than Bob Corker. --
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is well-intentioned, but its seeming threshold blocks too many articles on actually-notable candidates who merely lack cheerleading editors with the
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coverage and controversies related to his candidacy (including a Federal lawsuit alleging fraud) claims of BLP-1E are rather preposterous.
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per WP:POLITICIAN. Not sure about the redirect, but an entry for him will need to be maintained at the
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the policy right now, but it's probably the only way a nobody like this Mark Clayton could survive
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Yup yup. My comment was partly pre-emptive. Not saying he's notable - just that
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who want to know more about this major party candidate for the U.S. Senate?
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has found is that this article title should not become a redlink.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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if you would think he was notable if the coverage was positive
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I already created (but hid for now) the proper link at '
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