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adding about him - just cos he reports on the telly doesn't mean he has a notable life, its his job ,thats all. I will keep at it until its gone anyways. Its not automatic this award for notability - and although there are a few of the gold awards that are a bit notable the one he was awarded jointly is a minor one as I can see - why are there no independent reports of this fantastic achievement? At least User Collect presented a citation and thanks for that Collect. I also note the proliferation of redlinks associated with the other
427:@Off2riorob - Your description tickled me because of my personal views about the pomposity of the whole concept behind the Walkley Awards, which take themselves very, very seriously. It was not meant as a reflection on you. Responding to your other points: Firstly, I don't have to improve anything in order to state my opinion. Secondly, the subject is not "just a journalist" - he is a journalist for a national television 440: 435:. I know Australia is very small and a bit of a backwater compared to the US and UK but this is a position of national significance in my country. Thirdly, "I never heard of it" is not a reason to dismiss the Walkley Awards. They may be a bit of a mutual backslapping exercise but they are the major journalism award program in this country. I suggest you didn't look very hard for 481:
to "just go yeah notable", to present and discuss references and to add them to the article if appropriate. Would you change your mind if more reliable references were added to the article? (I've just added the Walkley Award one Collect found). I'm just concerned because comments like "I will keep at
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As for you being tickled Matt - this person appears to clearly be not very wiki notable at all - he seems to be a simple journalist - I realise he is from your country but please try to be constructive in your position - add something to the article if you want to keep it - improve it in real time -
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Prod was removed without improvement - Journalist that in the course of his work is mentioned here and there in sources but that asserts no depth of notability - article as it asserts no notable awards - there is a minor award but looking at it it is of little note - or a level of note that would
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Not really - instead of you aussies just going - yea notable - walkely award - improve the article because if you guys simply vote to keep it because he is from your country and it remains like it is now, with a single citation, and I am in the uk and I have searched and found nothing worthy of
302:- I have looked around and not found anything that is not a mirror of wikipedia for this award - If users assert notability please add some local citations to assist in improving the article and explaining why the subject is notable. thanks - 635:
journalists are never as notable as they always think they are. The Walkley equivalent in most other industries would never be considered notable and journalists shouldn't be considered inherently more notable than other professions.
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Clearly notable even before this latest event as a leading national political reporter for a national network and most certainly notable after. I am a little tickled by the description of the Walkley Awards as "minor". --
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I don't want to delete it if he is a noteworthy person, I was looking for some improvement and I appreciate your beneficial contributions. Personally he still looks like someone with a job on telly with a
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it until its gone anyways" seem to indicate "us Aussies" are wasting our time adding refs or insisting the Walkleys are notable if you're determined to delete the article no matter what. --
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it has a single citation - This award, it does not appear to be a major award at all, I am so far unable to verify which award he actually received - there are many every year,
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Thanks for looking - if you find it, let me have a reliable citation that supports it - I was also looking around for refeences to this persons notability, the article says ,
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Riley is an important figure in journalism and the media. As Chief Political correspondent he is well known. Others like
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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and joint winners of this award. Perhaps he has written some books, my google search didn't reveal any?
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Appears to be from 1999 and was a joint award. Possibly just notable enough, but it takes digging.
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have pages. This is just a lame attempt to delete this page because of his confrontation with
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The Walkleys are a major Australian award, and in winning one of these I feel he is notable.
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are hardly minor - the article says they are the Australian equivalent of the Pulitzers.
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and confer inherent notability, although I agree the awards are a bit of a wank. --
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criteria, but I think that the Walkley Award gets him across the line.
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pass WP:GNG or WP:BIO - Off2riorob (talk) 13:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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on page 169 shows Riley with a joint Walkley "Sydney Morning Herald (
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The Walkley Award is the kind of major award that would meet
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Walkley..award, but at least he a cited one of those now.
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covering Federal politics, not the local police beat at
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No further edits should be made to this page. 586:list of Television-related deletion discussions 221:list of Australia-related deletion discussions 404:Thanks Collect, I've added that reference. -- 172: 8: 612:list of Authors-related deletion discussions 334:Riley, who is chief political reporter for 300:the article has presently a single citation 606: 580: 215: 610:: This debate has been included in the 584:: This debate has been included in the 219:: This debate has been included in the 477:This is an AfD, and the point of that 7: 24: 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 713:10:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC) 699:09:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC) 687:contribution to this BLP here 674:09:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC) 646:22:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC) 627:13:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC) 601:13:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC) 576:11:03, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 559:07:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 538:07:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 511:02:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC) 492:22:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 473:14:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 453:06:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 414:22:28, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 400:07:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 348:02:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 328:02:13, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 312:01:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 285:00:53, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 267:00:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 236:00:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC) 55:06:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC) 437:evidence of their notability 211:22:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC) 193:22:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC) 749: 545:Not very notable per the 725:Please do not modify it. 441:event squarely about him 32:Please do not modify it. 69:Mark Riley (journalist) 61:Mark Riley (journalist) 390:." 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Mark Riley (journalist)
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