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bringing in invalid comments and suggestions, which is, in fact, very clear in the above posts. Either way... the MKS article had best be merged with the Source game list. To furthur try to discuss this is futile. There does not seem to be reason enough to actually keep the article intact, so a honorable mention seems fair enough to me.
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Okay now there's sufficiant notabillity and now this article meets
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well of course we can keep this article up and when beta version is released, more info and sources can eb added. Plus we have sufficent sources up. There's are heaps of game articles up here which have less info than what's on this article yet they cleary meet
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I can't seem to see any difference ebtween. Only that they're both major modifications based on a popular series. Plus I've added some more notability. Plus the mod hasn't been released yet for to get heaps of info. Though there are heaps of sites showing info and screenshots of the mod. Plus there
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Goldeneye: Source weren't made and widely released by a company, they were made by mod teams, one widely distributed through Steam the other not-so-widely released by the mod team. That, of course, has no bearing on their or this article's notability, but I thought I'd clarify
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it may receive that coverage. Or may not. In the meantime we don't need a placeholder and redirecting one or a million currently non-notable mods to another page or list seems fruitless (you could do the same with flash games, but if it's not here the reader isn't getting what they wanted either
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NOT ENOUGH! From what I've seen this page meets wikipedia guidelines. There's heaps of other game articles that has less suficiant information than this and clearly they meet
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Well then I guess we can keep this article up and when more information has come then it can be decided whether to delete this or not. As many game artcles are kept on here whether the game is unreleased and has less sufficiant information.
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