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I'd love to act on and delete a bunch of bios much more poorly sourced than this, but I've got self control. (In fact there are three vanity ones with little or no WP:RS I'd like deleted now, but I've criticized the people in past off wiki so I feel I have a conflict of interest. Contact me and we'll talk if your looking to do some deleting.)
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arguments aside, the sources are not convincing at this point. Of all the sources in the article, the only that has significant coverage of this individual is a press release. The rest are primarily about her company and only mention her in passing, or have a very brief quote from her.
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