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1243:. I am strongly against delete, but I'm honestly on the fence between keep and merge. My problem with articles being merged is frequently they become mere redirects with little to no content about the original subject. That is useless for someone legitimately trying to find out about the subject. Secondly, I feel this vote is premature. The person who nominated the article probably has no problem with hunting, the whole prey/predator cycle, but currently Marius the giraffe is a cause celebré, with thousands of people upset clouding the vote with passion and emotion. Will it matter six months from now? Maybe, maybe not. But he seems to matter now and as of this time, I think we should respect that. Thirdly, the rules of this site are bent and swayed according to consensus. My case in point. We require articles to be independently "notable". With independent resources, etc... I have seen dozens of cable network "celebrities" get voted off while a reality TV personality on NBC or CBS gets voted in. Teck Holmes, despite parts in more than two dozen movies and TV shows doesn't have an article because he isn't "notable" enough, but a contestant on Survivor can be included with no other credits. I care not one way or the other about Teck beyond making my argument. I know server space is a finite resource, but with all the hoopla, I think this meets notability. 3278:- regardless of the outcome of the AFD decision, it should be noted that there are two Giraffs in Denmark called Marius. On the 9th February, Copenhagen Zoo's Giraffe named Marius was culled. on the 15th February, it was announced that Jyllands Park Zoo's Giraffe also named Marius may have to be put down. Should this be the case, the notoriety of the Copenhagen Zoo would both increase as it was brought to the fore of the media, but also decrease due to possible confusion over the name - hence any article should be clear as to what it sets out. Cull of 'Marius' or culling policy of Zoo's in general? 1421:, The animal only gained notoriety due to the media attention, the Giraffe itself was of no significant interest in to the Giraffe population in captivity or the wild. The controversy though does raise questions surrounding the ethics and treatment of animals born in captivity as was only contentious due to the other options being available to prevent the slaughter of an otherwise healthy animal. The Redirect to the Copenhagen Zoo would be appropriate as the issue was localised there. To retain the page would IMHO be against 1201:. After all this was widely covered by media, Marius death (and mainly the circumstances it occurred at... healthy animal, alternatives refused, the way it was done, etc...) have been talked about around the whole world... not just one more trivial animal culling case. Don't think this should be deleted at all, else think it would req. considering same for a LOT other wiki pages. Marius had no space on the zoo... "whole world" talked about it... can't he even get some few KB's about it at Knowledge (XXG) also? 2523:. Clearly notable. People will see references to the killing/culling of Marius and want to look it up. There is enough to say about this event to warrant its own article - though a mention in one or two broader-topic articles would probably be appropriate, too. As for naming: usual practice is to name this kind of story after the event - though it is by no means mandatory. Personally, I see no benefit whatever in lengthening the name to "Killing/Culling of" and so, as a lover of concision, I oppose that. -- 52:. Discussion in this AFD changed from supporting deletion or a merge/redirect to supporting a keep based on the number of reliable sources currently available and the current ongoing coverage. That said there were a large number of new accounts and IPs who edited this AFD and made the result somewhat unclear. For those who voted to delete/redirect/merge my suggestion would be that you give it a month and see if the coverage continues and hence the depth of coverage. 1176:. The controversy is about the zoo and, on a higher level, the European Association of Zoos and Aquariums (EAZA) policy on maintaining the gene pool of giraffes. The zoo admits that 20 or 30 animals are killed each year. Having an article on each animal destroyed from this or any other zoo would make Knowledge (XXG) over-bloated with articles of this sort, and the Deaths in (year) articles and categories over-bloated as well. 2374:. It is arguable that the subject here is a mere news event, but it has raised serious issues about zoo ethics that may have a lasting impact. In any case, the subject is, as it should be, covered in a more condensed form at the Copenhagen Zoo article, so if consensus eventually turns out to be against a separate article on the giraffe, there should be a redirect rather than a deletion. 1307:, as articles about people who were otherwise not notable except for their deaths, usually are titled in this manner. And, of course, its not just a death, but a killing. The section should not be called "Giraffe culling controversy", as this is not about the policy per se, but the notability of this one killing specifically, which may be setting off some broader debates on culling. 2548:. Massive media coverage, departure point for many discussions on an international level, also in-depth comments, and likely to influence looks on zoo policies and ethics in the future, as a reference point. The interest in this subject goes way beyond media coverage in the US, UK and Denmark, and it is good to have an international, updated reference article available 1155:. - The article is about the story not the animal so it is irrelevant if it is a one-event notability. It just so happens that the title of the article is the name of the animal. If it were to be merged, it belongs to the article of the Zoo but in relation to that article's content, the info here may seem out of place, especially with regards to length.-- 853:. Is keeping the article THAT big a deal? No, and six months from now, we may revisit this and the delete would be unanimous and uncontested, but right now, there are a LOT of people following this giraffe, this story. I expect debates about animal captivity, and zoo handling to increase making Marius even MORE notable, even if it is just infamy. 2886:- or merge eventually; time will tell how much attention this story deserves. Right now it is a major news story; we don't yet know its repercussions. It doesn't really matter if Marius himself never did anything notable, or if the culling was an entirely trivial matter; the real story is the public's reaction, which is unusual. 1355:
article. In fact, there are whole categories on individual animals, e.g. Category:Individual elephants, Category:Individual cats, Category:Individual dogs, Category:Individual horses and yes...Category:Individual giraffes!! If we delete this article, I think there is a heck of a lot more deletions needed.__
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the Giraffe, to cut it up in front of young children and then feed it to the lions and other animals. Knowledge (XXG) is about facts and as long as this story is factual it should be here. I can see no reason why anyone would want to remove this article unless it was to sabotage and to suppress the story.
2416:: Right now we have about an even split that is 29-27 in favor of retaining the article out of a total 56 votes/positions cast. So, some editors will surely be angry either way this one goes. I said all redirect/merge or deletes in the deletion category, and all keeps/weak keeps put in the keeping category. 3166:
It is essential to keep this article as it has become an important issue in Denmark and Internationally. The facts and comments from the side of Copenhagen Zoo are well published and that there is a significant number of people in Denmark and Internationally feel that the Zoo was wrong to kill Marius
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A giraffe that recently attracted a few news articles after being culled, as every zoo in the world does to many animals every year. Not notable, and nobody is likely to care in a year. Tangentially, one would be forgiven for concluding at times that the English Knowledge (XXG) cannot have articles
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The Jylland Giraffe would be culled if (and when) they receive a suitable female Giraffe for breeding. The reasoning behind the cull would be that their Giraffe 'Marius' has an element of cross gene's and would cause infighting between it and the genetically superior other male giraffe in Jyllands.
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The article is very well-sourced and there is extensive and healthy debate on the Talk pages. You can not just claim 'errors' and expect that others see you as an authority for no reason. If there are errors, engage, edit, and source it well. We've seen you pushing that Marius was 2 years old, based
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Keep Marius is a part of history. Allow him to have this educational place. My niece is in middle school and is doing a history report on this giraffe and his plight. Her first stop was this site for information. Why delete this over opinion on whether or not the giraffe should die. He is a part
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This article is of a very notable event due to the controversy surrounding it and the fact that Marius has become a symbol for unethical culling, This isn't the first case such an article exists on Knowledge (XXG) related to an animal or a person who would be unnoteworthy if not for the controversy
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Marius is the story of people reading rules and not being able to think when there is an obvious solution, because of the giant disconnect because people are interacting with technology rather than with others in the material world, yes he got deleted do not delete him again, the inhumanity of what
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with Copenhagen Zoo. This content is not superfluous for an encyclopedia in the context of the Copenhagen Zoo, as it has been the event which has brought that particular zoo into the public consciousness. I doubt that most people will forget this context in which they first heard of the Copenhagen
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Since the votes tally was stated, there have been 5 single action registered editors vote and 5 IP address only votes placed. For someone new to Knowledge (XXG) to find the AFD page is quite impressive, but to only register to place a vote here seems suspicious, regardless of the way they voted -
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I searched for "Bengt Holst", no article title matches, but the article already considered for deletion came up. I went to the article for more information and related links. Gee, with so many prophets above knowing with exact certainty what the future status will be... Who knows, this could be a
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by saying "Oh, it's important right now" but determining whether the notability is temporary is the *point* not something to just ignore. In addition, social importance is irrelevant here -- we care about the notability of the subjects of articles, not whether the articles aid or hinder causes.
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with an appropriate article such as Copenhagen Zoo. Maybe rename per all the "Notoriety of person Foo" articles. High amount of news coverage meets GNG, this is a unique situation, not just an ordinary day behind the scenes at a zoo. The fact that it is controversial here (per above) is itself
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article it may well be eroded in subsequent years, reducing the obvious impact of this incident caused by the culling of this animal. There are many articles on Knowledge (XXG) on individual animals with varing degrees of notability, and several of them for very similar reasons to this present
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happened and that is was considered normal course is a story worth repeating so this great mistake can be seen and it is not just the killing but that it was done publicly and people were advised it was education and then Marius was fed to the lions it is the level if obliviousness that is news
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the nature of wikis is that such articles are created by well meaning individuals thinking that it's what news the public would want to read, forgetting that this is an encyclopedia for things of more than fleeting existence and relevance, and we have to suffer their existence for a whole week
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Yes, this should be kept open, which is why I did not close it or request closing. I struck my nomination statement because I reconsidered my personal vote, and I hope that that is not given any consideration beyond that of one less support, and more oppose, by an ordinary user. Sorry for the
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Nor I think you are able to predict the future. You may have noticed that this already has made some discussion among zoos on how to go about culling, as there seem to be cultural/ethical differences between zoos. Undoubtedly this discussion will continue among zoos and breeding
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An incident that gratuitously profoundly offended millions of people around the world, attracting a very high level of worldwide media coverage. I don't think I'll forget about this incident for a very long time and I'm sure there's thousands of other people that feel the
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Please hold your horses. You work from an IP-address which are not necessarily fixed. If (or rather 'when') your Internet Provider gave you a different IP, Knowledge (XXG) has no means to bind your previous and your new IP address. That's why most people create an account.
967:, is reasonably well-written and the subject is creating a lot of internet traffic, far more than the zoo ever has. Another AfD six months down the line may produce a more obvious result, but keep it for now. People who don't understand the topic should stay out of AfDs. 1719:
A separate article looks like the best way to ensure that the information remains in Knowledge (XXG). The relevant section in the Copenhagen Zoo article already looks like the issue might end up dominating that article possibly leading to calls for cutting on grounds of
2749:. This has been a major worldwide story, and people need Knowledge (XXG) to represent the truth. The Marius story is of great importance regarding the treatment of animals in captivity, it should be made available for public knowledge and not deleted from history. 1724:. This event may well be cited in the future when the issues around the existence of zoos are raised which would disprove claims that this is solely news. The article can be an article for deletion candidate again in a few years if this proves not to be the case. 442:
Didn't have a page prior to death, shouldn't have one now. It did nothing significant, and nothing significant happened to it. They should have fed it to the lions live, but they probably wouldn't have known what to do with it, further confusing the children.
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I think the story of Marius has awakened people to what actually happens in zoos and is only the start of possible changes/reforms in the animal keeping world and as long as the content listed is all true I don't see why it should need to be removed
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remains to be seen. Until then, it would be most suitable as part of the Zoo article. In the cases of the three other articles you've shown, they too would be suitable for a content merge (to where would be determined), for the same reasons as this
3449:. There are 55 sources to establish notability and significant coverage. Enough people followed this case in the news that it will be commonly searched for; this is not a borderline case, and I can't believe the Article was even nominated. 2184: 1024: 2086:
Its an attempt at an invalid technicality. In Hitler's time, Nazi Germany didn't commit crimes (under their own laws). Mao wasn't a criminal, only because he was his own government. Zimmerman was found innocent, so does this mean
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Blatantly non-notable, non-lasting, single news "fad" subject. Not to mention severe NPOV issues in article's current state. If necessary a condensed version can be merged with specific/general zoo/animal conservation article(s).
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Interesting to see how many clever editors already know how long this topic will be relevant, how many think they already know the full impact of the event, and how many inexplicably think this happens every day. Clearly passes
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RUBBISH!!! I edit extensively, but I do it as an IP without an account. So stop your unwarranted inferences. And don't label me as an SPA, and don't lecture me about creating an account - in case you were thinking of doing
1346:. This incident has clearly raised awareness about the morals and ethics of zoos and conservation, and shocked many people. These values are not widely discussed or reported on Knowledge (XXG). For example, the article 2006:. These animals appear not to have been notable before their being killed - it was the killing and events immediately before and after the cull that made it notable. I totally agree there could/should be an article on 176: 1392:. I think this is a notable enough incident to be worthy of a note in history and therefore have its own Knowledge (XXG) article – I can imagine wanting to go back and read about it in years to come. And I agree with 1638:- If we have this as a stand alone article, it will constantly get challenged. All of the facts here are important, and my goal is to preserve it. As time goes on, there will be less coverage to add to this article. 2091:
doesn't apply to him? Kuala Lumpur or any other organization can label someone as a criminal, even if their own governments wont. Marius is still a victim, whether or not any government dictates it as a crime. -
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Although this incident may have raised some legitimate questions about the practice of zoos euthanizing healthy animals, I think this could be a classic example of a person or animal only famous for one thing.
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This whole arguement about whether an article is "just" news is so nebulous and open to interpretation. As an English person not particularly interested in ball-games, I struggle to understand why
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The only unusual thing about the entire incident is the zoo's terrible public relations work and typical Danish stand-offishness, neither of which are any surprise. No lasting impact, doesn't pass
1058:. This is a commonplace practice, and there is nothing special about this giraffe. Merging content (if necessary) with article on the zoo or the general practice of culling is more appropriate. 2395:
exists, let alone without any comment regarding it being "just" news. It clearly is news, and debate about it will clearly dissipate with time (if there IS any debate). Perhaps I should label
1303:, but a lot of the info in the article, esp. over time, wont relate directly to the zoo, so its slightly better on its own. Just to be difficult, i think the article, if kept, should be renamed 1803:. This is a controversy with encyclopedic worth. A merge with the Kopenhagen Zoo is not preferred by the size of the article and given that the scope of the affair is wider than just this Zoo. 3294:
I understood that Jylland's Marius won't be culled. The case with Copenhagen's Marius created the media attention, but Jylland's Marius can be mentioned in the same article as a spin-off.
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The continuing press coverage makes this pretty clearly notable. As such, I struck my AFD statement and my initial !vote. I'd appreciate someone letting me know if I messed up doing so.
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I hope Marius' article brings much attention to this senseless tragedy. He has made ALL the major news outlets and will continue for the time to come. R.I.P. Marius the giraffe :
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I don't understand why wikipedia has nominated this article for deletion. There are plenty of wikipedia pages on murder victims etc. I don't see the difference between this and
2353:. The story has moved on from being a news event and has provoked a worldwide debate on whether culling is the best approach to manage genetic issues in such animals. A merge to 170: 2357:
would be a sub-optimal action since even the present content is disproportionate to the balance of that article. Further, broadening this page may be a valid future action.
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I reference WP:VICTIM and WP:BIO because the fundamental criteria remains the same; other than being killed, what makes the article subject notable? Is it the case that
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There's little notability here; if anything's notable, it's the general policies of the Copenhagen Zoo. Most of the keeps appear to be simply trying to jump around
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KEEP!!! why do so many people want it deleted, out of all the thousands of Knowledge (XXG) articles there are? Why are they so afraid that people will read it?
2590:. Worldwide notability. Abundant references, and very many readers are likely to come here to find out about this giraffe, so it doesn't make sense to delete. 2452:
At least ten "keep" !votes have come from single-purpose accounts (new editors and possibly repeat !voters) which significantly weakens the "keep" statistic.
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It's an important story and should stand alone. It has made a lot of people aware of what actually happens to 'surplus' animals in zoos around the world.
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A point I made on the main Talk page. There are several articles about the culling of a single animal which have the name of the animal as the title - see
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The section there is already incredibly long for what will likely be a non-event barely remembered in 6 months. It certainly doesn't need its own article.
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on just some reports, while almost all news coverage says 18 months. We've reverted that, and now you opt to delete the whole article. Quite pathetic.
2732:. This article is notable and represents a greater problem. Marius is a symbol for a cause and isn't the first such symbol to be on Knowledge (XXG). 2332:. This tragic case has been reported fairly extensively around the world and has done a great deal to raise awareness about zoo "culling" practices. 645: 2036:
shows us that this event has seen international coverage and is "very likely to be notable". However, the question as to wither the impact will be
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about current events without fringe activists' contributing their side's views in ways that violate NPOV and usually a few other pillars.
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I don't think it warrants a separate article, but I don't want to see it get deleted completely. So I would say it's best to probably
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There are too many errors in the article for it to be here. There are also cultural differences that are not highlighted enough.
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Where is the evidence of "cruelty"? The giraffe was killed by stunning with a bolt gun. No evidence of any pain or suffering.
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selected content. The arguments by zoos and specialists should be preserved; politics and media responses can be thrown out.
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but deletion is not actually an option as the reliable coverage about the subject is really massive.
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Marius is now part of world history which has caused and may cause protests, death threats, etc.
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PS: I haven't edited in a while because hypocrisy, but for some reason I'm just giving my POV.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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NOTE: The original nominator (Pakaran) appears to have withdrawn his nomination for deletion.
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as above. In the long run I guess a paragraph or so in the zoo article will be appropriate.
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Marius spent his whole life in Copenhagen school, so this article could be merged there.
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It's a relatively well referenced article on a verifiable, and arguably notable topic.
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This case has already made mainstream news articles in Europe, America and Australia.
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I'm going to stick my neck out here (chortle) and say it's non-notable and fails
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article and no more (perhaps a note in an animal rights list, if one exists). --
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Or you may be an existing editor attempting to !vote on multiple occasions ...
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for deletion and stand back and watch the fury that would be sure to arise.__
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could be argued for, but even that I don't think is justified at this point.
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I suggest you read it yourself. Especially the first two bullet points.
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Knowledge (XXG) is not news a redirect would be more appropriate.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/2010_Florida_Qur%27an-burning_controversy
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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there will be no lasting significance to this common culling.
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