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relations have been virtually non-existent for some time. The relationship has been profound for over a century. This Mexico/Yugoslavia article does not cover the relationship, only the specific relations. In this article, the head of state meetings are well supported by reliable independent sources. As one would expect, the meetings are discussed in books and presumably were well reported in the papers at the time: "Tito Visits Mexico". They are clearly notable. The descriptions of treaties and agreements unfortunately rely on primary government sources in this version. Presumably there is no reasonable doubt of their authenticity, but it might be better to find books or news articles that reported on them. It seems likely that these sources exist, but I have no easy way to find Mexican or Yugoslavian news reports from 20 or 30 years ago.
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I think we have a different understanding of the topic. To me, "relations" means senior-level meetings, agreements, investments, trade etc. - connections and dealings between the two countries. "Relationship" is a more abstract concept, about general feelings and perceptions. As an example, USA-Cuba
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After 6 months, it is still a pathetic stub with no references showing notability. How many books or journal article have been written on the topic of "Relations between Mexico and Serbia?" Seems like a mere directory listing, which violates
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Just added the United Nations as source for the treaties. Not as good as news articles, maybe, but fairly convincing to me. Also a few other sources, still not great.
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no evidence of significant relationship. many of the relations predate the establishment of independent state of Serbia. only 1 minor agreement in force
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I am unpersuaded by all the primary sources and general puff that have been added to the article. Notability for a topic, in this case this
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I have added some content to the article. Head of state meetings tend to be notable.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Juliancolton

00:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Mexico–Serbia relations
Mexico–Serbia relations
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
http://www.mfa.gov.rs/Policy/Bilaterala/Mexico/agreements_e.html
LibStar
talk
05:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
International recognition of Kosovo
Biruitorul
06:27, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
list of Serbia-related deletion discussions
Fabrictramp
talk to me
14:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
list of Mexico-related deletion discussions

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