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402:. After looking at the release histories, I became convinced that Codename Lisa's statement that "Media Player is the old name of the product" is correct. According to the WP articles, Media Player 5.0 was released in 1999 and Windows Media Player 6.4 was the earliest release of that program, also in 1999. It does appear that Microsoft simply prefixed "Windows" to the product line and maintained a release history continuity in its version numbers. The various releases of Media Player are just earlier versions of Windows Media Player, and as such, a merge is fully warranted. -- 265:. Media Player received significant coverage back when Windows 3.1 was current. Many of the best sources describing this software would be found in books and magazines published in the early to mid 90s. I found multiple results by searching for "Media Player" in Google Books (and narrowing the search to include only results published between 1990 and 1995 to weed out the much more numerous hits for the later Windows Media Player): 283:. I don't have time right now to dig more deeply to try to locate some more accessible sources, but I'm thinking it probably could be done, or perhaps someone has a stack of Windows 3.1 era books lying around. However, the main question in my mind is whether Windows Media Player should be considered the direct descendant of Media Player (i.e. Windows Media Player builds upon the existing Media Player 266: 311:
perceived lack of notability. I couldn't tell whether the snippet view sources contained passing mentions or more than that. In two cases in the past, I also discovered that the community held a lower standard of notability than I did. So, I went by all I had: Proposing it here would tell me whether I was right or wrong. Let's see with which of us others agree. Best regards,
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Hi. As for your last concern, I believe Media Player is the old name of the product and it was later renamed "Windows Media Player". That aside, their functionality is for the most part the same. So, I think it has full merit for merge. But the reason I dropped this line and came to AfD was due to my
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and hence Media Player is merely an early version of Windows Media Player)? Or are the two programs completely separate, albeit performing a similar function? If the former, I'd be inclined to vote for a merge to
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Wrong forum, as this is not "Articles for Merger".  The issue has to do with notability, not deletion, so should go to either the talk page or maybe the notability noticeboard.
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Hi. That is true but there is no policy saying Windows components can skip notability check because they are Windows components. Best regards,
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appear to be accessible in any form other than "snippet view". But some of these "snippet view" results could be excellent
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This article is not nominated for merge; in fact, a merger is explicitly opposed in nomination. However,
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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may solve its problem, history shows that has once been merged but its merger is reverted.
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allow merger to be discussed as an alternative to deletion. Best regards,
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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says an independent article should have. Although a merge with
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